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Offline Ger Regan

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #7785 on: June 22, 2020, 06:46:12 PM »
I'm not sure how loyal our owners are. By all accounts in Lancashire earlier this year, Sean Dyche was being lined up to replace Smith. It was doing the rounds up there long before one or two papers/sites picked up on it.

Well 2 Billionaires didnt buy us to watch us playing in the Championship which is why if we drop down I suspect Purslow,Susu and Dean are all likely to be binned off
Purslow is a shareholder now, isn't he? Puts him in a much stronger position that the others I would have imagined.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #7786 on: June 22, 2020, 06:49:41 PM »
I'm not sure how loyal our owners are. By all accounts in Lancashire earlier this year, Sean Dyche was being lined up to replace Smith. It was doing the rounds up there long before one or two papers/sites picked up on it.
But that's not that ambitious. Dyche is fairly limited and hardly likely to set PL on fire any time soon.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #7787 on: June 22, 2020, 06:58:59 PM »
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Well I’d dispute that we had any great defensive plan in yesterday’s game. We just shoved everyone behind the ball and it wasn’t that hard for Chelsea. No more so than it would be if they were playing a League 1 or 2 side.

Would have to agree with that Paul.  It is a very demoralising way of playing and the problem is that you eventually come across a top side who rip you to shreds even though you are playing that defensive style of football.  Those kind of defeats are very hard to come back from.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #7788 on: June 22, 2020, 07:46:16 PM »
If we stay up, he needs to be improved upon, just like a lot of the players, which leads me to get rid of Suso first of all.

Suso is gone for sure

Interesting. Any other background info on it?

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #7789 on: June 22, 2020, 08:03:40 PM »
Purslow needs to show the owners he means business. His job to do the hiring and firing and some firing is definitely required. He said recently that relegation is a £200 million disaster and yet he sits tight!  We are so nearly ripe for a quality manager to take possession of this now well run club. Lots of money, lack of oomph.
Do you think he should sack him now or at the end of the season?  Realistically nobody would come in now - with a game every 3-4 days there's just no time to work with the squad.  Even if you worked mircales and got someone in by the weekend, they're looking at a maximum of 6 games they can try to influence.

I guess you could give it to Terry as caretaker.  Do you think that would give us a bounce?

Up until Saturday I always felt Smith should get until the end of the season.  Following that surrender I'm less sure, but I don't think there's any sensible alternaive right now.

I dare say you are right Chris. Who would realistically want it now? End of the season is probably the right time to reassess everything and try to sell the vision to the right person. No point changing now but just to say, if we don’t, then we accept our fate as Dean can’t change it.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #7790 on: June 22, 2020, 08:09:30 PM »
If we stay up, he needs to be improved upon, just like a lot of the players, which leads me to get rid of Suso first of all.

Suso is gone for sure

Interesting. Any other background info on it?

Unfortunately not. Been told for a while come season end he’s a goner. Not sure how far process is on a new DOF

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #7791 on: June 22, 2020, 08:13:34 PM »
Fuck John Terry.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #7792 on: June 22, 2020, 08:42:14 PM »
If we stay up, he needs to be improved upon, just like a lot of the players, which leads me to get rid of Suso first of all.

Suso is gone for sure

Interesting. Any other background info on it?

Unfortunately not. Been told for a while come season end he’s a goner. Not sure how far process is on a new DOF

Why would they wait til the season ends? We're not going to need any player recruiting between now and then.  Unless it's just letting his contract run down?

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #7793 on: June 22, 2020, 08:47:01 PM »
Why would they wait til the season ends? We're not going to need any player recruiting between now and then.  Unless it's just letting his contract run down?
I suppose because they'd effectively be telling the players recruited by Suso 'we should never have bought you'.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #7794 on: June 22, 2020, 10:31:29 PM »
Why would they wait til the season ends? We're not going to need any player recruiting between now and then.  Unless it's just letting his contract run down?
I suppose because they'd effectively be telling the players recruited by Suso 'we should never have bought you'.

As much as I think it's been a disaster, we operate a moneyball system and I'd like to think that Suso is still doing his job and putting portfolio's together for whoever comes in next to decide. He's been a shambles, such as shame with these owners.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #7795 on: June 22, 2020, 11:25:11 PM »
He can fuck off with the jack gets fouled a lot shtick as well. Do something about it then Dean instead of just moaning to get your excuses in for the next embarrassing defeat.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #7796 on: June 22, 2020, 11:44:21 PM »
He can fuck off with the jack gets fouled a lot shtick as well. Do something about it then Dean instead of just moaning to get your excuses in for the next embarrassing defeat.


Whilst he may have a point how about some of our players stick the foot in and foul.Did anyone get near Mount all game ?

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #7797 on: June 23, 2020, 12:10:39 AM »
Purslow needs to show the owners he means business. His job to do the hiring and firing and some firing is definitely required. He said recently that relegation is a £200 million disaster and yet he sits tight!  We are so nearly ripe for a quality manager to take possession of this now well run club. Lots of money, lack of oomph.
Do you think he should sack him now or at the end of the season?  Realistically nobody would come in now - with a game every 3-4 days there's just no time to work with the squad.  Even if you worked mircales and got someone in by the weekend, they're looking at a maximum of 6 games they can try to influence.

I guess you could give it to Terry as caretaker.  Do you think that would give us a bounce?

Up until Saturday I always felt Smith should get until the end of the season.  Following that surrender I'm less sure, but I don't think there's any sensible alternaive right now.

I dare say you are right Chris. Who would realistically want it now? End of the season is probably the right time to reassess everything and try to sell the vision to the right person. No point changing now but just to say, if we don’t, then we accept our fate as Dean can’t change it.

Benitez? Came in at a later stage for Newcastle didn't he? Didn't manage to keep them up that time but they blitzed the championship, selling their best players, and made them a solid EPL team with little investment. Allardyce would take it too, both control freaks mind but avoiding relegation would save the club millions.

First thing either of those would do would implement a semblance of structure to the team. The purists might not take to the football but 25% possession at home isn't exactly 1970s Brazil. 

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #7798 on: June 23, 2020, 07:04:15 AM »
Agree, the first thing when you are struggling is become hard to beat, there is no structure to the way we are set up..
I can not see a new manager appointment but someone needs to do something and soon.

Offline Luke8

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #7799 on: June 23, 2020, 07:48:54 AM »
Agree, the first thing when you are struggling is become hard to beat, there is no structure to the way we are set up..
I can not see a new manager appointment but someone needs to do something and soon.

Really? I said that the one thing that has happened since the restart is that we have much more defensive structure. We have looked more solid in terms of chances conceded in the last two games than we had in the majority of games prior to the break and that is with gifting the other team the ball for pretty much all of one of them.

Unfortunately it seems at the moment to have come at the expense of our attacking output - although we did clearly create the better chances against Sheffield United.

We clearly have some glaring issues - the predictability of how we are going to set up and play and our horrendous game management - but we have been more solid so far and that what most people seem to expect any new manager to come in and implement.

 


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