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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6915 on: February 25, 2020, 03:18:07 PM »

With the others having a decent amount of time left on their contracts, we'd get a good fee if they were to go, which could be reinvested. We could loan them to a club in the Premier League for a decent fee.....

We'd make a loss on them all except the aforementioned players and Luiz, should Man City decide to buy him back, which I doubt.  And then we'd have to trust Pitarch and Smith not to completely arse the recruitment process up again.  It would be a shitfest.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6916 on: February 25, 2020, 03:37:47 PM »

With the others having a decent amount of time left on their contracts, we'd get a good fee if they were to go, which could be reinvested. We could loan them to a club in the Premier League for a decent fee.....

We'd make a loss on them all except the aforementioned players and Luiz, should Man City decide to buy him back, which I doubt.  And then we'd have to trust Pitarch and Smith not to completely arse the recruitment process up again.  It would be a shitfest.

By the others I meant Mings and McGinn. Nobody else would be released.


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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6917 on: February 25, 2020, 03:45:10 PM »

With the others having a decent amount of time left on their contracts, we'd get a good fee if they were to go, which could be reinvested. We could loan them to a club in the Premier League for a decent fee.....

We'd make a loss on them all except the aforementioned players and Luiz, should Man City decide to buy him back, which I doubt.  And then we'd have to trust Pitarch and Smith not to completely arse the recruitment process up again.  It would be a shitfest.

Who do you think we'd have to sell that we'd make a loss on?

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6918 on: February 25, 2020, 06:12:48 PM »
We could loan them to a club in the Premier League for a decent fee.....

That's actually a very good idea.
And about as likely as AEG going 12 rounds with Tyson Fury.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6919 on: February 25, 2020, 08:50:14 PM »
Think criticism of the summer transfers is a bit harsh. We effectively needed to bring in 10-15 new players regardless, and did it to a budget of about £120m (roughly £10m/player). It really does limit us to either up-and-coming players like Konsa or cheap punts (in PL terms) like Trez. Not saying we've got a team of world beaters on our hands, and some maybe haven't worked out as well as we'd hoped, but I'm struggling to see what else we could've realistically done. Buy fewer, but higher quality players and have a paper thin squad? Spend £250m or something over the summer & make FFP totally impossible?

We're doing roughly what I expected, which is being involved in a scrap around 17th place. Sticking with what I said at the start of the season - I'd stick with Dean if we finish 18th or higher. 19th, keep him if we were only a point or two off 17th. 20th, unacceptable. If we do go down, though, we're going to have to look nailed on for automatic promotion pretty quickly.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6920 on: February 25, 2020, 10:30:05 PM »
We could loan them to a club in the Premier League for a decent fee.....

That's actually a very good idea.
And about as likely as AEG going 12 rounds with Tyson Fury.

Why?

I'd think the character they've shown would suggest they like being part of our club and can see the potential. With a settled side, and them coming back in, with a couple more additions and we'd be far better prepared.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6921 on: February 25, 2020, 11:10:04 PM »
We could loan them to a club in the Premier League for a decent fee.....

That's actually a very good idea.
And about as likely as AEG going 12 rounds with Tyson Fury.

Why?

I'd think the character they've shown would suggest they like being part of our club and can see the potential. With a settled side, and them coming back in, with a couple more additions and we'd be far better prepared.
Yes it happens all the time.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6922 on: February 25, 2020, 11:12:51 PM »
We could loan them to a club in the Premier League for a decent fee.....

That's actually a very good idea.
And about as likely as AEG going 12 rounds with Tyson Fury.

Why?

I'd think the character they've shown would suggest they like being part of our club and can see the potential. With a settled side, and them coming back in, with a couple more additions and we'd be far better prepared.
Yes it happens all the time.

Here we go.

Why isn't it a good idea?

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6923 on: February 25, 2020, 11:15:37 PM »
We could loan them to a club in the Premier League for a decent fee.....

That's actually a very good idea.
And about as likely as AEG going 12 rounds with Tyson Fury.

Why?

I'd think the character they've shown would suggest they like being part of our club and can see the potential. With a settled side, and them coming back in, with a couple more additions and we'd be far better prepared.
Yes it happens all the time.

Here we go.

Why isn't it a good idea?
Because it has no basis in reality.
Why would a player or a club agree to it ?
These are not players surplus to requirements, they are top level Premier League First Team players, show me an example of where this has happened.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6924 on: February 26, 2020, 07:38:40 AM »
We could loan them to a club in the Premier League for a decent fee.....

That's actually a very good idea.
And about as likely as AEG going 12 rounds with Tyson Fury.

Why?

I'd think the character they've shown would suggest they like being part of our club and can see the potential. With a settled side, and them coming back in, with a couple more additions and we'd be far better prepared.
Yes it happens all the time.

Here we go.

Why isn't it a good idea?
Because it has no basis in reality.
Why would a player or a club agree to it ?
These are not players surplus to requirements, they are top level Premier League First Team players, show me an example of where this has happened.

Yeah, because there's never a first time for anything.

Why wouldn't they agree to it? We allow them the opportunity to play in the top division as a recognition of their contribution and level with an agreement to release (transfer) if we don't go up.

We don't want to let them go, but realise they have loftier ambitions. The receiving club gets a good player on a loan, that is the equivalent of getting a Premier League loan without eating into the max 2 loans form another Premier League club.

Everyone wins.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6925 on: February 26, 2020, 07:52:37 AM »
You should call the club and let them know.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6926 on: February 26, 2020, 09:25:16 AM »
I’ve read everything now.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6927 on: February 26, 2020, 10:06:44 AM »
You should call the club and let them know.

Thanks, helpful as ever.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6928 on: February 26, 2020, 10:07:44 AM »
I’ve read everything now.

Well done. Gold star in assembly for you.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6929 on: February 26, 2020, 10:31:41 AM »

With the others having a decent amount of time left on their contracts, we'd get a good fee if they were to go, which could be reinvested. We could loan them to a club in the Premier League for a decent fee.....

We'd make a loss on them all except the aforementioned players and Luiz, should Man City decide to buy him back, which I doubt.  And then we'd have to trust Pitarch and Smith not to completely arse the recruitment process up again.  It would be a shitfest.

Who do you think we'd have to sell that we'd make a loss on?

The players we'd "have to sell" we'd make a profit on (Jack, McGinn etc).  Other players like Wesley, Nakamba, Trezeguet, we wouldn't have to sell them, and if we did, we'd be making a loss I reckon.

 


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