Quote from: Olof's Beard on February 23, 2020, 12:54:09 PMI love how people draw conclusions from so little. There was nothing wrong with the spirit against Spurs or across the two legs of the League Cup Final. Note the way the players rallied around Engels last week too. It's more likely that we have a bunch of young, inconsistent players who are too easily overpowered and intimidated when things aren't going their way. I don't think the players have given up on the manager. We have one of the weakest squads in the league. We're about where we should be in the table.I suppose all you can say is that Smith was as shocked and embarrassed by the team yesterday as most of us on here were and, more importantly, was at a total loss to explain it.
I love how people draw conclusions from so little. There was nothing wrong with the spirit against Spurs or across the two legs of the League Cup Final. Note the way the players rallied around Engels last week too. It's more likely that we have a bunch of young, inconsistent players who are too easily overpowered and intimidated when things aren't going their way. I don't think the players have given up on the manager. We have one of the weakest squads in the league. We're about where we should be in the table.
It always amazes me that Allardyce is classed as an old school dinosaur whereas in reality he was way ahead of the game regarding sports science which he took a great interest in whilst winding down his playing career in the states. There were reasons little old Bolton punched above their weight under him. Not to mention him avoiding relegation with some pretty poor teams like Bolton, Newcastle, Blackburn, West Ham, Sunderland, Palace and Everton (three of which went to pot and went down after he moved on). I think he is a guy that firstly keeps sides up and then if given time and support moves clubs onwards and upwards.
If he wasn't a Villa fan he would not be our manager .It's a crazy situation and it's going to send us back down,for all the praise the owners get for saving us we're being run by clueless clowns who seem happy for us to be a Championship Club again
Quote from: ASHTONVILLA on February 23, 2020, 01:09:09 PMShould have binned Smith in December, still think Alladyce could keep us up. Still not convinced Smith can. That would set us back 10 years, not 5. Fat Sam and his ilk-there are a few of them out there, would be the worst way to go. If we go down, we can get back up again and Smith would be my favourite to do so. If that didn't happen, yes, change it and bring someone else in, but give it a chance. I hate the merry-go -round of changing managers and would like to see stability for a few seasons at least.
Should have binned Smith in December, still think Alladyce could keep us up. Still not convinced Smith can.
Quote from: Flin5tone on February 23, 2020, 11:53:57 AMIf he wasn't a Villa fan he would not be our manager .It's a crazy situation and it's going to send us back down,for all the praise the owners get for saving us we're being run by clueless clowns who seem happy for us to be a Championship Club again Utter, utter bollocks. With no respect.
Quote from: walsall villain on February 23, 2020, 12:01:54 PMThat’s the issue with changing manager. Yesterday I was all for getting a fire fighter in like Allardyce but having slept on it I’m not sure. I’ve always thought the squad has major weaknesses, what if we appointed Allardyce (say) and still go down? We then will be trying a complete rebuild yet again. This is such a tough decision I reckon. My guess is they’ll stick with Smith even after relegation.It's not just a choice between Allardyce and Smith though is it? There are lots of more palatable alternatives.
That’s the issue with changing manager. Yesterday I was all for getting a fire fighter in like Allardyce but having slept on it I’m not sure. I’ve always thought the squad has major weaknesses, what if we appointed Allardyce (say) and still go down? We then will be trying a complete rebuild yet again. This is such a tough decision I reckon. My guess is they’ll stick with Smith even after relegation.
Quote from: hilts_coolerking on February 23, 2020, 12:05:44 PMQuote from: walsall villain on February 23, 2020, 12:01:54 PMThat’s the issue with changing manager. Yesterday I was all for getting a fire fighter in like Allardyce but having slept on it I’m not sure. I’ve always thought the squad has major weaknesses, what if we appointed Allardyce (say) and still go down? We then will be trying a complete rebuild yet again. This is such a tough decision I reckon. My guess is they’ll stick with Smith even after relegation.It's not just a choice between Allardyce and Smith though is it? There are lots of more palatable alternatives.Go on then, who?
Quote from: walsall villain on February 23, 2020, 01:59:37 PMQuote from: hilts_coolerking on February 23, 2020, 12:05:44 PMQuote from: walsall villain on February 23, 2020, 12:01:54 PMThat’s the issue with changing manager. Yesterday I was all for getting a fire fighter in like Allardyce but having slept on it I’m not sure. I’ve always thought the squad has major weaknesses, what if we appointed Allardyce (say) and still go down? We then will be trying a complete rebuild yet again. This is such a tough decision I reckon. My guess is they’ll stick with Smith even after relegation.It's not just a choice between Allardyce and Smith though is it? There are lots of more palatable alternatives.Go on then, who?I posted a link to a list of currently unemployed managers on here yesterday - sorry, can't remember which thread although it may have been this one. It's easily Googled though. There were plenty of fine managers on it.
Fat sam on a contract until end of season, keeps us up huge bonus for him and say goodbye and bring in a manager who plays the football that people want to see