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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6315 on: February 02, 2020, 09:14:24 AM »
The inconsistency of our performances is extremely frustrating. A great performance against Leicester taking us to Wembley and then a clusterfuck at Bournemouth who leapfrog us in the PL table. How do you even begin to account for that mismatch in performance levels? After the Leicester win, Jack stated and was clearly frustrated that a few weeks ago the team could hardly string 5 passes together, yet we seem to have gone back to that level within the space of just a few days. Very frustrating and Smith needs to get a grip of and address these issues if we are to have any chance of staying up this season.

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« Reply #6316 on: February 02, 2020, 09:41:54 AM »
I think he’s doing ok too. Play off winners always struggle so this was sort of what I expected.


Play off winners dont spend 150m and be consistently shit most of the season. They can at least do a bit better on the road.

In my view smiths under achieving badly and invested very poorly.

What about all the established teams at this level who have spent 100m +? West Ham spend that and below us. Brighton spent a fair bit in the last 12 months on forward players alone.

Everton spent 500m + in last three years and are only now starting to pull clear into the top half.

Spending money is always just a part of it. We could've spent much less, picked up some steady eddie free transfers like Gary Cahill and I reckon we'd have 3-4 more points on the board but then you don't build as much for the long term.

Im not really concerned about west ham im concerned about us. Sheffield united spent peanuts and they are doing fantastic. We on the other hand look like a 40 minute team. When was the last time we dominated a whole game?

I cant think of many. I thjnk the mkmey was poorly invested as well. 22m on wes 12m on trez and el ghazi is so hit and cold.

I dont rate hause either think he is just a bumbling clumsy cb. God knows where jota is as well. Thats close to 50m wasted.


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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6317 on: February 02, 2020, 09:44:19 AM »
Sheff Utd are probably showing what can happen if you give a manager time, and all work together on a plan...

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6318 on: February 02, 2020, 09:44:50 AM »
West Ham are showing what throwing big money along with instability creates...

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6319 on: February 02, 2020, 09:49:51 AM »
it will and i can't see beyond relegation at the moment as we are too inexperienced and thus too inconsistent. A Cup final win and the former might save Dean and Co, but losing badly against City and going down won't.

That's a shock.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6320 on: February 02, 2020, 09:50:22 AM »
Sheff Utd are probably showing what can happen if you give a manager time, and all work together on a plan...

Wilder has been fantastic. On paper I wouldn't swap any of their players for ours, but they are so well coached.

I know we have injuries to key players, but I struggle to see the impact of coaching on our lot. Is this because of the coaching itself, the players unable or unwilling to be be coached, or simply the the number of new players we have had to integrate?


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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6321 on: February 02, 2020, 09:56:53 AM »
The inconsistency of our performances is extremely frustrating. A great performance against Leicester taking us to Wembley and then a clusterfuck at Bournemouth who leapfrog us in the PL table. How do you even begin to account for that mismatch in performance levels? After the Leicester win, Jack stated and was clearly frustrated that a few weeks ago the team could hardly string 5 passes together, yet we seem to have gone back to that level within the space of just a few days. Very frustrating and Smith needs to get a grip of and address these issues if we are to have any chance of staying up this season.

Pretty much all teams are like that this season. Burnley lost at home to us and then went and beat Leicester and Man United. Watford were unbeaten in six and above us before we beat them.

It’s probably forgotten a bit that we have a pretty young team - I think it was a combined outfield age of about 24 yesterday - combined with the fact that over half have probably played less than twenty games together for us. It’s frustrating, I agree, but I think it’s understandable that performances are inconsistent.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6322 on: February 02, 2020, 10:01:10 AM »
I think he’s doing ok too. Play off winners always struggle so this was sort of what I expected.


Play off winners dont spend 150m and be consistently shit most of the season. They can at least do a bit better on the road.

In my view smiths under achieving badly and invested very poorly.

What about all the established teams at this level who have spent 100m +? West Ham spend that and below us. Brighton spent a fair bit in the last 12 months on forward players alone.

Everton spent 500m + in last three years and are only now starting to pull clear into the top half.

Spending money is always just a part of it. We could've spent much less, picked up some steady eddie free transfers like Gary Cahill and I reckon we'd have 3-4 more points on the board but then you don't build as much for the long term.

Im not really concerned about west ham im concerned about us. Sheffield united spent peanuts and they are doing fantastic. We on the other hand look like a 40 minute team.

You're only concerned about other teams when they suit your argument then?

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6323 on: February 02, 2020, 10:07:31 AM »
It's still anybodies. There's a number of teams in the shit. We still need 4 wins to be sure. I wouldn't say anyone around us is feeling anymore confident that us. Watford's honeymoon looks over, West Ham have a horrible run which could derail them, Norwich are gone, Brighton can't win a raffle and B'mouth have a had a couple of results just like we did. Plenty of twists and turns to come. We do need a result against a team we normally lose to though.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6324 on: February 02, 2020, 10:09:13 AM »
Sheff Utd are probably showing what can happen if you give a manager time, and all work together on a plan...

I get what you are saying from your 2 posts, but look at Norwich, not splashing cash and have faith in their manager but are going down. I don’t think there is 1 rule clubs will follow and do good.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6325 on: February 02, 2020, 10:21:31 AM »
The only thing you can take from Sheffield United is that Wilder is an absolutely brilliant manager.  All this "stick with a manager" business depends on that manager being the right one, as very few people were advocating keeping Sherwood or Bruce for example.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6326 on: February 02, 2020, 10:23:56 AM »
On the Cup or League argument, I'd just say that the cup has largely been lineups made up of our second string. Which hadn't had much effect on the first team other than sering Konsa do well and get promoted Nyland perform great to make us all feel more secure with Heaton out and let the likes of Taylor, Targett and Elmo get some useful game time.

Smith is managing the squad. We're on the edge and our season could go South from here and we finish bottom. Or we could do great and finish 8th. Or we could continue with the inconsistency and hover where we are. The latter is far more likely in my view though obviously we'd all like to be winning the league.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6327 on: February 02, 2020, 11:01:58 AM »
I think he’s doing ok too. Play off winners always struggle so this was sort of what I expected.


Play off winners dont spend 150m and be consistently shit most of the season. They can at least do a bit better on the road.

In my view smiths under achieving badly and invested very poorly.

What about all the established teams at this level who have spent 100m +? West Ham spend that and below us. Brighton spent a fair bit in the last 12 months on forward players alone.

Everton spent 500m + in last three years and are only now starting to pull clear into the top half.

Spending money is always just a part of it. We could've spent much less, picked up some steady eddie free transfers like Gary Cahill and I reckon we'd have 3-4 more points on the board but then you don't build as much for the long term.

Im not really concerned about west ham im concerned about us. Sheffield united spent peanuts and they are doing fantastic. We on the other hand look like a 40 minute team.

You're only concerned about other teams when they suit your argument then?

Just as you choose to ignore my sheffield united point then?

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6328 on: February 02, 2020, 11:06:55 AM »
I think he’s doing ok too. Play off winners always struggle so this was sort of what I expected.


Play off winners dont spend 150m and be consistently shit most of the season. They can at least do a bit better on the road.

In my view smiths under achieving badly and invested very poorly.

What about all the established teams at this level who have spent 100m +? West Ham spend that and below us. Brighton spent a fair bit in the last 12 months on forward players alone.

Everton spent 500m + in last three years and are only now starting to pull clear into the top half.

Spending money is always just a part of it. We could've spent much less, picked up some steady eddie free transfers like Gary Cahill and I reckon we'd have 3-4 more points on the board but then you don't build as much for the long term.

Im not really concerned about west ham im concerned about us. Sheffield united spent peanuts and they are doing fantastic. We on the other hand look like a 40 minute team.

You're only concerned about other teams when they suit your argument then?

Just as you choose to ignore my sheffield united point then?

Well, no, not like that at all really given that I've just directly replied to your point about Sheffield United. Keep up.

You were the one who said they weren't concerned about other teams then banged on about Sheffield United. You're even managing to diasagree with yourself now. Which is understandable.
« Last Edit: February 02, 2020, 11:09:35 AM by SheffieldVillain »

Offline walsall villain

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6329 on: February 02, 2020, 11:10:16 AM »
I think he’s doing ok too. Play off winners always struggle so this was sort of what I expected.


Play off winners dont spend 150m and be consistently shit most of the season. They can at least do a bit better on the road.

In my view smiths under achieving badly and invested very poorly.

What about all the established teams at this level who have spent 100m +? West Ham spend that and below us. Brighton spent a fair bit in the last 12 months on forward players alone.

Everton spent 500m + in last three years and are only now starting to pull clear into the top half.

Spending money is always just a part of it. We could've spent much less, picked up some steady eddie free transfers like Gary Cahill and I reckon we'd have 3-4 more points on the board but then you don't build as much for the long term.

Im not really concerned about west ham im concerned about us. Sheffield united spent peanuts and they are doing fantastic. We on the other hand look like a 40 minute team.

You're only concerned about other teams when they suit your argument then?

Just as you choose to ignore my sheffield united point then?
Sheffield United developed their squad over 2-3 seasons and went up easily with that settled squad. This time last year we were bumbling along half way down the league. Promotion was a minor miracle from that position. We’ve had to put a team together very quickly and it’s bloody difficult.

 


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