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Offline Risso

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5955 on: December 30, 2019, 01:54:37 PM »
Going down would be disastrous.  The only reason we got out last year, was the form of SJM, McGinn, Mings and the return of Jack.  We'd have to sell all of those if we went down, even if they wanted to stay which I doubt.  The amortisation on just the new 2019 signings alone would be the thick end of £40m a year, before their wages.  We'd be stuck with expensive duds like Targett and Wesley, and if they left we'd make a big loss on their fees.  You've then got to hope we're not in for a points deduction, and also hope that somehow we can find a goalscorer from somewhere, something they haven't managed to do this season.

I hope we can stay up, but it doesn't look likely under Smith.  If we lose against Burnley, he really does need to be sacked immediately.

Offline N'ZMAV

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5956 on: December 30, 2019, 01:58:03 PM »
Going down would finish me off.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5957 on: December 30, 2019, 02:02:10 PM »
Going down would be disastrous.  The only reason we got out last year, was the form of SJM, McGinn, Mings and the return of Jack.  We'd have to sell all of those if we went down, even if they wanted to stay which I doubt.  The amortisation on just the new 2019 signings alone would be the thick end of £40m a year, before their wages.  We'd be stuck with expensive duds like Targett and Wesley, and if they left we'd make a big loss on their fees.  You've then got to hope we're not in for a points deduction, and also hope that somehow we can find a goalscorer from somewhere, something they haven't managed to do this season.

I hope we can stay up, but it doesn't look likely under Smith.  If we lose against Burnley, he really does need to be sacked immediately.

In fairness we did have an unfair advantage playing both SJM and McGinn.

Offline Risso

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5958 on: December 30, 2019, 02:07:42 PM »
Going down would be disastrous.  The only reason we got out last year, was the form of SJM, McGinn, Mings and the return of Jack.  We'd have to sell all of those if we went down, even if they wanted to stay which I doubt.  The amortisation on just the new 2019 signings alone would be the thick end of £40m a year, before their wages.  We'd be stuck with expensive duds like Targett and Wesley, and if they left we'd make a big loss on their fees.  You've then got to hope we're not in for a points deduction, and also hope that somehow we can find a goalscorer from somewhere, something they haven't managed to do this season.

I hope we can stay up, but it doesn't look likely under Smith.  If we lose against Burnley, he really does need to be sacked immediately.

In fairness we did have an unfair advantage playing both SJM and McGinn.

If we end up having to sell Jack AND Grealish, I'll be well pissed off!

Online Demitri_C

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5959 on: December 30, 2019, 02:18:36 PM »
Smith cant even blame VAR that much we wouldnt be better off points wise




Offline hilts_coolerking

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5960 on: December 30, 2019, 02:20:34 PM »
Relegation would be a disaster and that's all there is to it.  Apart from the negative effect it would have both on the playing side and the financial side, we'd be at least a year behind the "plan" having already spent well over £100M and almost certainly short of our best players.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5961 on: December 30, 2019, 02:23:40 PM »
Smith cant even blame VAR that much we wouldnt be better off points wise





How do they work that out? Is the assumption that any penalty that was cancelled would have been scored? How do they work out the points value of a VAR red card?

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5962 on: December 30, 2019, 02:31:01 PM »
We heard this straight back up rubbish last time. It really is not easy particularly when we will have to replace our3 best players and be stuck with others really not suited to the Championship.

Disagree
It’s competitive because the standard is so low

you don’t have to be fantastic to get out of that league
any decent manager and a few rubbish ones have been successful in the past

we made a complete pigs ear of it because of our wastefulness and bad manager choices and generally doing what Villa have always done fucked it up

but it’s not a difficult league to get out of if you know what your doing
Completely disagree, wishful thinking.

it’s a league where Gestede, McCormac  and Hogan all scored 20+ goals in a season

How much more shit could it be
All said last time.
I can not believe that you do not appreciate the huge risk relegation presents.
Our chance to survive the first season is unlikely to be better than the one we look like throwing away now.
If you can’t see that then fine.

I thought we were already down?

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5963 on: December 30, 2019, 03:04:33 PM »
Going down would clearly be a disaster and I find the attitude of rather go down and keep Dean than stay up without him utterly bizarre.

Offline Sexual Ealing

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5964 on: December 30, 2019, 03:10:56 PM »
Going down would clearly be a disaster and I find the attitude of rather go down and keep Dean than stay up without him utterly bizarre.

This also baffles me. It's not like we've banked the TV money like Norwich.

Offline Drummond

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5965 on: December 30, 2019, 03:21:26 PM »
Going down would clearly be a disaster and I find the attitude of rather go down and keep Dean than stay up without him utterly bizarre.

I'm not sure anyone has said that.

Offline Ads

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5966 on: December 30, 2019, 03:23:54 PM »
Smith cant even blame VAR that much we wouldnt be better off points wise





How do they work that out? Is the assumption that any penalty that was cancelled would have been scored? How do they work out the points value of a VAR red card?

Or that Kevin Friend is a ******.

Offline Risso

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5967 on: December 30, 2019, 03:27:44 PM »
Christian Purslow said this after the play off win:

"Our goal is, that when we arrive in the Premier League, we are ready with a Dean Smith team – players that fit his playing profile and that give us the best possible chance to make a real impact next season – not just making up the numbers.

There’s no interest in flirting with the catastrophe of relegation that the club has had to live with for the last three years so we need to make really good decisions and add players who really improve us."

Be interesting to hear what his thoughts are now now that we are very much "flirting with the catastrophe of relegation." 

Offline ChicagoLion

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5968 on: December 30, 2019, 03:43:17 PM »
We heard this straight back up rubbish last time. It really is not easy particularly when we will have to replace our3 best players and be stuck with others really not suited to the Championship.

Disagree
It’s competitive because the standard is so low

you don’t have to be fantastic to get out of that league
any decent manager and a few rubbish ones have been successful in the past

we made a complete pigs ear of it because of our wastefulness and bad manager choices and generally doing what Villa have always done fucked it up

but it’s not a difficult league to get out of if you know what your doing
Completely disagree, wishful thinking.

it’s a league where Gestede, McCormac  and Hogan all scored 20+ goals in a season

How much more shit could it be
All said last time.
I can not believe that you do not appreciate the huge risk relegation presents.
Our chance to survive the first season is unlikely to be better than the one we look like throwing away now.
If you can’t see that then fine.

I thought we were already down?
If some of the thinking on here is replicated in the boardroom we are

Offline ChicagoLion

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5969 on: December 30, 2019, 03:44:04 PM »
Going down would clearly be a disaster and I find the attitude of rather go down and keep Dean than stay up without him utterly bizarre.

I'm not sure anyone has said that.
Yes they have.

 


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