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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5940 on: December 30, 2019, 12:33:58 PM »
Going down should not be an option, yes the board must have a plan for it, but it will cause very big problems, players leaving & FFP. If we go I don’t think we will come straight back up.

This time I think we would (providing we kept Smith), however, it is an option because if we're not good enough it won't happen.

We've no divine right to be in the top division. We bloody well should be there mind.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5941 on: December 30, 2019, 12:59:39 PM »
We heard this straight back up rubbish last time. It really is not easy particularly when we will have to replace our3 best players and be stuck with others really not suited to the Championship.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5942 on: December 30, 2019, 01:12:45 PM »
We heard this straight back up rubbish last time. It really is not easy particularly when we will have to replace our3 best players and be stuck with others really not suited to the Championship.

That was after several years of decline though.  This time around, we have a better structure to the club.  Yes, we will lose our best three players but to the tune of 100m, putting the club in a position unseen by the Championship previously.  Arguable, of course.

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« Reply #5943 on: December 30, 2019, 01:15:33 PM »
We heard this straight back up rubbish last time. It really is not easy particularly when we will have to replace our3 best players and be stuck with others really not suited to the Championship.

Disagree
It’s competitive because the standard is so low

you don’t have to be fantastic to get out of that league
any decent manager and a few rubbish ones have been successful in the past

we made a complete pigs ear of it because of our wastefulness and bad manager choices and generally doing what Villa have always done fucked it up

but it’s not a difficult league to get out of if you know what your doing


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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5944 on: December 30, 2019, 01:24:22 PM »
We heard this straight back up rubbish last time. It really is not easy particularly when we will have to replace our3 best players and be stuck with others really not suited to the Championship.

That was after several years of decline though.  This time around, we have a better structure to the club.  Yes, we will lose our best three players but to the tune of 100m, putting the club in a position unseen by the Championship previously.  Arguable, of course.
It won’t just be our best 3 though. Gilbert Luiz and others. So that is a complete rebuilding job. Then there is falling into the clutches of the championship version of FFP.
And if we do somehow YO Yo you have the problem of building a team for the Prem without those players. Anyone think our owners might just think why bother? It’s a ridiculous idea and unless the club does something very soon we are heading towards the Championship.
Accepting relegation is a really bad idea.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5945 on: December 30, 2019, 01:25:23 PM »
We heard this straight back up rubbish last time. It really is not easy particularly when we will have to replace our3 best players and be stuck with others really not suited to the Championship.

Disagree
It’s competitive because the standard is so low

you don’t have to be fantastic to get out of that league
any decent manager and a few rubbish ones have been successful in the past

we made a complete pigs ear of it because of our wastefulness and bad manager choices and generally doing what Villa have always done fucked it up

but it’s not a difficult league to get out of if you know what your doing
Completely disagree, wishful thinking.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5946 on: December 30, 2019, 01:27:39 PM »
We heard this straight back up rubbish last time. It really is not easy particularly when we will have to replace our3 best players and be stuck with others really not suited to the Championship.

Disagree
It’s competitive because the standard is so low

you don’t have to be fantastic to get out of that league
any decent manager and a few rubbish ones have been successful in the past

we made a complete pigs ear of it because of our wastefulness and bad manager choices and generally doing what Villa have always done fucked it up

but it’s not a difficult league to get out of if you know what your doing
Completely disagree, wishful thinking.

it’s a league where Gestede, McCormac  and Hogan all scored 20+ goals in a season

How much more shit could it be

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« Reply #5947 on: December 30, 2019, 01:31:34 PM »
We heard this straight back up rubbish last time. It really is not easy particularly when we will have to replace our3 best players and be stuck with others really not suited to the Championship.

Disagree
It’s competitive because the standard is so low

you don’t have to be fantastic to get out of that league
any decent manager and a few rubbish ones have been successful in the past

we made a complete pigs ear of it because of our wastefulness and bad manager choices and generally doing what Villa have always done fucked it up

but it’s not a difficult league to get out of if you know what your doing
Completely disagree, wishful thinking.

it’s a league where Gestede, McCormac  and Hogan all scored 20+ goals in a season

How much more shit could it be
All said last time.
I can not believe that you do not appreciate the huge risk relegation presents.
Our chance to survive the first season is unlikely to be better than the one we look like throwing away now.
If you can’t see that then fine.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5948 on: December 30, 2019, 01:34:19 PM »
We heard this straight back up rubbish last time. It really is not easy particularly when we will have to replace our3 best players and be stuck with others really not suited to the Championship.


Disagree
It’s competitive because the standard is so low

you don’t have to be fantastic to get out of that league
any decent manager and a few rubbish ones have been successful in the past

we made a complete pigs ear of it because of our wastefulness and bad manager choices and generally doing what Villa have always done fucked it up

but it’s not a difficult league to get out of if you know what your doing
Completely disagree, wishful thinking.
it’s a league where Gestede, McCormac  and Hogan all scored 20+ goals in a season

How much more shit could it be
And yet Leeds, having the best manager and arguably the best squad managed to fail. It's not easy - you have to have a good deal of consistency, and a decent amount of luck.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5949 on: December 30, 2019, 01:36:38 PM »
There is the added problem that every year the PL clubs get stronger and the rest weaker.
We could rise to the dizzy heights of Perennial YO YO club I guess.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5950 on: December 30, 2019, 01:37:20 PM »
Madness. We spent an absolute fortune and nearly bankrupt the club to finish no higher than 4th and only progress through the play offs and still people think it's an easy league?

We nearly went to the wall.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5951 on: December 30, 2019, 01:43:26 PM »
Madness. We spent an absolute fortune and nearly bankrupt the club to finish no higher than 4th and only progress through the play offs and still people think it's an easy league?

We nearly went to the wall.

With an idiot in charge.  We do not have the same idiots this time around, if it happens of course!

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5952 on: December 30, 2019, 01:43:42 PM »
We heard this straight back up rubbish last time. It really is not easy particularly when we will have to replace our3 best players and be stuck with others really not suited to the Championship.

Disagree
It’s competitive because the standard is so low

you don’t have to be fantastic to get out of that league
any decent manager and a few rubbish ones have been successful in the past

we made a complete pigs ear of it because of our wastefulness and bad manager choices and generally doing what Villa have always done fucked it up

but it’s not a difficult league to get out of if you know what your doing
Completely disagree, wishful thinking.

it’s a league where Gestede, McCormac  and Hogan all scored 20+ goals in a season

How much more shit could it be
All said last time.
I can not believe that you do not appreciate the huge risk relegation presents.
Our chance to survive the first season is unlikely to be better than the one we look like throwing away now.
If you can’t see that then fine.

I don’t want to go down
It would spell disaster I think we should do all we can to stay up by spending or changing the manager if needs be

my point was purely in relation to how difficult the Championship is to get out of
I maintain it’s a very low quality league that any team with a decent manager who knows how to put a team together and play a bit of football can get out of pretty easily

I know we struggled and Leeds etc but that because we put numpties in charge and even they have managed to get out of it in the past that’s how bad it is

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5953 on: December 30, 2019, 01:44:06 PM »
Madness. We spent an absolute fortune and nearly bankrupt the club to finish no higher than 4th and only progress through the play offs and still people think it's an easy league?

We nearly went to the wall.
Yep it’s the sort of confused thinking that  fucks organizations up more than anything. I really hope that This board Are not in the “it’ll be all right “ mindset.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5954 on: December 30, 2019, 01:50:44 PM »
We’ve done the ‘go down to re-set’ route.
I’m fucked if I want to do it again.

 


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