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Offline LukeJames

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3570 on: February 16, 2019, 09:22:24 PM »
He won't if results carry on like this and nor should he be.

You think a manager known for his high intensity attacking football won't be here next season based on his current results with a bunch of cloggers that have no idea how to play his way? he'll be here in August without a shadow of a doubt.

Again, you can’t just absolve the manager’s responsibility. He needs to show that he has a clue how to adapt, and manage the squad he has now.
Do you genuinely and honestly really think that the squad available to Smith right now is better than the sum of its return in terms of performances and results?

It's better than getting horsed 3-0 by Wigan.
We've had better squads than this get horsed 3-0  by Wigan.

Edit.... although I've just had a quick look at 'that' squad and fuck me it was bad!
« Last Edit: February 16, 2019, 09:24:36 PM by LukeJames »

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3571 on: February 16, 2019, 09:24:00 PM »
That's true, he's not even waited for the next week before having his next nightmare performance.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3572 on: February 16, 2019, 09:26:43 PM »
He won't if results carry on like this and nor should he be.

You think a manager known for his high intensity attacking football won't be here next season based on his current results with a bunch of cloggers that have no idea how to play his way? he'll be here in August without a shadow of a doubt.

Again, you can’t just absolve the manager’s responsibility. He needs to show that he has a clue how to adapt, and manage the squad he has now.
Do you genuinely and honestly really think that the squad available to Smith right now is better than the sum of its return in terms of performances and results? If so, please enlighten us all as to how Smith should get more out of the likes of Hutton, Elmo, Taylor, Whelan, Hologram, Jedinak, Kodjia, Adomoh, El Ghazi and BB.

I believe they could be better if they had a tweak in style that didn’t expose their clear weaknesses. More direct perhaps? I.e. less time on the ball when they’re not capable. This is what the manager is paid a lot to work out.

I want him to get the chance to have the players he wants to play the style he wants, but he needs to bridge the gap over the next few months to do that.

Offline KRS

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3573 on: February 16, 2019, 09:28:20 PM »
In his post match interview Smith bemoaned that Albion Sat on their 2-0 lead making it difficult for us ......no shit Sherlock !!!
What did he expect them to do ? Leave themselves wide open so we could just waltz through their defence
I'm not seeing the forward thinking tactical exponent we thought we were getting -  I agree with an earlier post which suggests he is like a deer/rabbit caught in the headlights of an oncoming car - and yes he is looking a bit jaded
I think you have interpreted his interview wrong...in his last 2 post game interviews he has fallen just short of saying that he's limited and frustrated by the shit players he has at his disposal. Quite clearly he can't come out and say that, but against Brentford he alluded to the fact that our players can't pass and move, and today he said that they weren't creative enough to break Baggies down. Both of these statements are correct, and that is exactly why Moore decided to sit on the 2 goal lead because he knows the Villa team are slow, don't have any creative outlets, and concede possession easily by making simple mistakes such as poor ball control or a misplaced pass/cross. We carry no threat to any teams simply due to the players available and on the pitch.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3574 on: February 16, 2019, 09:30:51 PM »
They shut up shop second half and we lacked the quality to break them down. Which is what he said. You ask what did he expect them to do, well what did you expect DS to say post match apart from what actually happened in the game?

Offline LukeJames

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3575 on: February 16, 2019, 09:33:31 PM »
They shut up shop second half and we lacked the quality to break them down. Which is what he said. You ask what did he expect them to do, well what did you expect DS to say post match apart from what actually happened in the game?

Exactly, I think that's his 'professional' way of saying the players I have here are fucking shite.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3576 on: February 16, 2019, 09:34:42 PM »
Might want to open my thread back up if this carries on for much longer. Shit and getting shitter, not good enough.

And judging by what he has chosen to bring in I am far from convinced I want Smith to have a summer transfer window. Kalinic we seem to have paid about £5m too much for, Hause is not very good, Mings looks decent but is only on loan. If this is any indication of what kind of players he would assemble given time then better not to give him time.

Offline LukeJames

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3577 on: February 16, 2019, 09:36:25 PM »
Might want to open my thread back up if this carries on for much longer. Shit and getting shitter, not good enough.

And judging by what he has chosen to bring in I am far from convinced I want Smith to have a summer transfer window. Kalinic we seem to have paid about £5m too much for, Hause is not very good, Mings looks decent but is only on loan. If this is any indication of what kind of players he would assemble given time then better not to give him time.
You probably need to get an understanding of how our transfer in system works before going off on any future rants.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3578 on: February 16, 2019, 09:37:10 PM »
He won't if results carry on like this and nor should he be.

You think a manager known for his high intensity attacking football won't be here next season based on his current results with a bunch of cloggers that have no idea how to play his way? he'll be here in August without a shadow of a doubt.

Again, you can’t just absolve the manager’s responsibility. He needs to show that he has a clue how to adapt, and manage the squad he has now.
Do you genuinely and honestly really think that the squad available to Smith right now is better than the sum of its return in terms of performances and results? If so, please enlighten us all as to how Smith should get more out of the likes of Hutton, Elmo, Taylor, Whelan, Hologram, Jedinak, Kodjia, Adomoh, El Ghazi and BB.

I believe they could be better if they had a tweak in style that didn’t expose their clear weaknesses. More direct perhaps? I.e. less time on the ball when they’re not capable. This is what the manager is paid a lot to work out.

I want him to get the chance to have the players he wants to play the style he wants, but he needs to bridge the gap over the next few months to do that.

So we agree then that these players are inadequate footballers?

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3579 on: February 16, 2019, 09:39:33 PM »
So we agree then that these players are inadequate footballers?

Not sure I do, most of the have done far better elsewhere when played in a way that suits them.

Offline Fred Crump

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3580 on: February 16, 2019, 09:40:51 PM »
Might want to open my thread back up if this carries on for much longer. Shit and getting shitter, not good enough.

And judging by what he has chosen to bring in I am far from convinced I want Smith to have a summer transfer window. Kalinic we seem to have paid about £5m too much for, Hause is not very good, Mings looks decent but is only on loan. If this is any indication of what kind of players he would assemble given time then better not to give him time.

I agree about Kalinic, I think he’s a total dud and we need to cut our losses with him, but if Mings and Hause(on today’s performance) are an indication of the sort of quality he wants to bring in, that’s ok by me as they are miles better than anything we have at the moment, bar Grealish , Tammy ( and he’s not ours either) and McGinn.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3581 on: February 16, 2019, 09:42:51 PM »
He won't if results carry on like this and nor should he be.

You think a manager known for his high intensity attacking football won't be here next season based on his current results with a bunch of cloggers that have no idea how to play his way? he'll be here in August without a shadow of a doubt.

Again, you can’t just absolve the manager’s responsibility. He needs to show that he has a clue how to adapt, and manage the squad he has now.
Do you genuinely and honestly really think that the squad available to Smith right now is better than the sum of its return in terms of performances and results? If so, please enlighten us all as to how Smith should get more out of the likes of Hutton, Elmo, Taylor, Whelan, Hologram, Jedinak, Kodjia, Adomoh, El Ghazi and BB.

I believe they could be better if they had a tweak in style that didn’t expose their clear weaknesses. More direct perhaps? I.e. less time on the ball when they’re not capable. This is what the manager is paid a lot to work out.

I want him to get the chance to have the players he wants to play the style he wants, but he needs to bridge the gap over the next few months to do that.

So we agree then that these players are inadequate footballers?

Of course they are, some of them. So then you acknowledge the squad you have and adjust to try and manage that.

The point is that it is not acceptable for us just to lose week in and week out and just to continue with basically the same plan and expect it to change.

Again I want Smith to succeed, I want us ultimately to play entertaining football. But that won’t happen if the manager can’t show improvement between now and the end of the season.

Offline Fred Crump

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3582 on: February 16, 2019, 09:48:32 PM »
Why are you so sure ? I thought the owners brought him here because they had a long term plan. We won’t be relegated so what would be the sense in sacking him without giving him time to change the squad?

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3583 on: February 16, 2019, 09:49:22 PM »
I don't see why our manager should be expected to stoop to their level, rather than the players attempting to lift themselves to his.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3584 on: February 16, 2019, 09:51:18 PM »
I don’t, but if we lost say 10 of our remaining games I’d be surprised if the owners retained confidence in the manager for the long-term.

 


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