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Offline paul_e

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #1935 on: January 03, 2019, 04:56:34 PM »
So,anyone got any thoughts on Dean Smith?

To be fair, I did try to bring it back to a comparison between the 2 and the situations they arrived to but that bit was missed.

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« Reply #1936 on: January 03, 2019, 05:05:43 PM »
But what a good argument.Bruce and stability,Benteke was a fluke.Only lacked a comparison with MON's record and Doug's legacy.

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« Reply #1937 on: January 03, 2019, 06:37:44 PM »
I thought Bruce was going to bring stability, which would have been worth putting up with his turgid football for. But he didn’t. He pissed what funds he had up the wall pursuing the same short termist approach that had gone before and any dressing room harmony appears to have had more with the likes of Terry and Snodgrass than anything Bruce did.

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« Reply #1938 on: January 03, 2019, 06:54:28 PM »
I thought Bruce was going to bring stability, which would have been worth putting up with his turgid football for. But he didn’t. He pissed what funds he had up the wall pursuing the same short termist approach that had gone before and any dressing room harmony appears to have had more with the likes of Terry and Snodgrass than anything Bruce did.

I agree with your comment about Terry. Reminds me who got Terry to come to the Villa?

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #1939 on: January 03, 2019, 06:56:53 PM »
The previous administration gambled and lost on Bruce. His performance with the treasure chest they provided was way below expectation. Sunderland, who some are touting for similarity, did no such spending so I'm not sure what comparison needs to be drawn. He came and failed. Any manager would have crawled over broken glass to accept that contract and that purse to walk out of here as the stabilser of the car crash that was AVFC.
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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #1940 on: January 03, 2019, 06:58:59 PM »
Yep, it was Steve Bruce who built dressing room morale and on the pitch leadership around a player on a one year contract then failed to replace him when he predictably left at the end of his contract.

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« Reply #1941 on: January 03, 2019, 07:08:16 PM »
Yep, it was Steve Bruce who built dressing room morale and on the pitch leadership around a player on a one year contract then failed to replace him when he predictably left at the end of his contract.

I'll admit Bruce's actions with the defence in the summer was confusing, it was very un Bruce like, but to get a suitable Terry replacement when we were broke most of the summer made that difficult.

I said it at the time and was laughed at that we should never have sold Baker because let's face it if he was still here our defence wouldn't be as bad as the Baker Chester partnership only conceded 6 more goals than the Terry Chester partnership.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #1942 on: January 03, 2019, 07:23:44 PM »
Remind me who sold Baker?

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« Reply #1943 on: January 03, 2019, 07:29:11 PM »
Remind me who sold Baker?

Yeah it was Bruce and that was a mistake, but unlike Bruce haters I'm able to praise Bruce for making us competitive for the 1st time since 2010 but also critisize when he made a mistake.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #1944 on: January 03, 2019, 07:31:39 PM »
Yep, it was Steve Bruce who built dressing room morale and on the pitch leadership around a player on a one year contract then failed to replace him when he predictably left at the end of his contract.

I'll admit Bruce's actions with the defence in the summer was confusing, it was very un Bruce like, but to get a suitable Terry replacement when we were broke most of the summer made that difficult.

I said it at the time and was laughed at that we should never have sold Baker because let's face it if he was still here our defence wouldn't be as bad as the Baker Chester partnership only conceded 6 more goals than the Terry Chester partnership.

So they conceded more goals?  What's your point?  Baker, whilst we could with him this weekend, just to make up the numbers, really hasn't done great since leaving has he?

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #1945 on: January 03, 2019, 07:33:34 PM »
Remind me who sold Baker?

Yeah it was Bruce and that was a mistake, but unlike Bruce haters I'm able to praise Bruce for making us competitive for the 1st time since 2010 but also critisize when he made a mistake.

He got rid of the losing mentality but failed with his main objective.  Lovely bloke, but the job was too big a step for him.  He does well with small clubs with less expectations attached.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #1946 on: January 03, 2019, 07:38:12 PM »
Remind me who sold Baker?

Yeah it was Bruce and that was a mistake, but unlike Bruce haters I'm able to praise Bruce for making us competitive for the 1st time since 2010 but also critisize when he made a mistake.

He got rid of the losing mentality but failed with his main objective.  Lovely bloke, but the job was too big a step for him.  He does well with small clubs with less expectations attached.

That's also the worry about Smith managing Brentford with fans that are happy to be where they are is a whole different kettle of fish to managing a club like Villa and the pressure and expectations that come with it. Judgement of Smith starts now for me as he can put his mark on the squad.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #1947 on: January 03, 2019, 07:45:22 PM »
I think we would all agree Stuart, just because Smith is a Villan, he shouldn't get a free ride.  He also has to prove his worth too.

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« Reply #1948 on: January 03, 2019, 07:45:59 PM »
Brentford aren't where they were.

For all the talk about "a Brentford machine in which Smith was a small cog" they've been shite since he left.

He's a good manager. We're going up, albeit the hard/exciting way and we're staying up.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #1949 on: January 03, 2019, 07:50:28 PM »
He is. This season or next?

 


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