Dean Smith - Confirmed

[footyskillz]

What happened to his innovative idea of rotated captains !

I feel it was voted out.
JT would be someone who thinks a captain should be stable and consistent rather than moving it around

I quite liked Smith's idea and the chance for players to know the captain role but seems this hasn't come in maybe because the players think it's something under 14 teams do.

If there were less established players then maybe they would have taken it but I feel they weren't IP for Smith's idea .

As long as they embrace his others ideas think can be progressive as Deano really is a innovative coach and probably too much for some squad after Mr Bruce

[RussellC]

I don't think he was ever going to come-in mid season and start making dramatic changes like rotating the captaincy.

Frankly, I'm amazed that we're even having a discussion about him at this stage, such has been the drastic and immediate improvement he made after taking over from Bruce.

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We've seen how well we can play and without the players to do it defensively or offensively. That's been made doubly hard by the injuries so there's a wee slump, which has been 2 draws, a defeat and a win.

I haven't agreed with the selection choices as I think Whelan is the main reason as he is yesterday's man in every sense.

But I'm confident we'll move away from this and that we'll finish in the Play Offs.

[RussellC]

We've seen how well we can play and without the players to do it defensively or offensively. That's been made doubly hard by the injuries so there's a wee slump, which has been 2 draws, a defeat and a win.

I haven't agreed with the selection choices as I think Whelan is the main reason as he is yesterday's man in every sense.

But I'm confident we'll move away from this and that we'll finish in the Play Offs.

I think Smith thinks the same about Whelan - hence all the links to defensive midfield signings - but I'm really not sure what alternatives he's had for the past few games. I don't think that Bjarnason has been fully fit, or we might have seen him start there against Preston.  That said, I would still be concerned that a midfield three of McGinn, Hourihane and BB would be too attack-minded to play together with any great success. We got burned against QPR last season by expecting an easy win, so it wouldn't at all surprise me to see Whelan play the first 60ish minutes tomorrow too.

[stuart445]

He's started looking old already, I hope to god that this job isn't a step to far, there's an awful lot of expectation on his shoulders. Is he the new messiah? I have a nagging doubt it's going to be all too much for him.
Obviously I hope I'm wrong.

You are wrong.

For me it's from tomorrow when the judgement starts as the the excuse of not his players won't be applicable.

January is where he can start to shape the squad the way he wants it so that should be where judgment starts. Already signing a keeper is a positive start so that gives me confidence.

[stuart445]

Why give a free pass when the whole intention of shifting Bruce out at that time of season was to still have a chance of being promoted. I can't agree but see your point. This season is not 100% his squad or full season.

However Smith himself would love promotion this season and also he not at a stage of experiments too much maybe that comes late season if villa arent there or thereabouts . However with that squad and the  competition teams I also
feel going to be top end

The big chances' conceded are of concern and I would like if he was at least competitive at top end till season end.

Exactly why give Smith a free pass when no one allowed Bruce a free pass when he was appointed at pretty much the same stage in the season. I'm more than happy Smith is here but let's not have 1 rule for 1 and another rule for someone else let's stay consistent.

[sickbeggar]

Why give a free pass when the whole intention of shifting Bruce out at that time of season was to still have a chance of being promoted. I can't agree but see your point. This season is not 100% his squad or full season.

However Smith himself would love promotion this season and also he not at a stage of experiments too much maybe that comes late season if villa arent there or thereabouts . However with that squad and the  competition teams I also
feel going to be top end

The big chances' conceded are of concern and I would like if he was at least competitive at top end till season end.

Exactly why give Smith a free pass when no one allowed Bruce a free pass when he was appointed at pretty much the same stage in the season. I'm more than happy Smith is here but let's not have 1 rule for 1 and another rule for someone else let's stay consistent.

The difference is Bruce inherited a squad that had a lot of money spent on it by RDM, as well as the majority of the squad that came down. Smith can't even field a proper back 4

[RussellC]

He's started looking old already, I hope to god that this job isn't a step to far, there's an awful lot of expectation on his shoulders. Is he the new messiah? I have a nagging doubt it's going to be all too much for him.
Obviously I hope I'm wrong.

You are wrong.

For me it's from tomorrow when the judgement starts as the the excuse of not his players won't be applicable.

January is where he can start to shape the squad the way he wants it so that should be where judgment starts. Already signing a keeper is a positive start so that gives me confidence.

Which of his signings are playing tomorrow then?

[footyskillz]

I don't think he was ever going to come-in mid season and start making dramatic changes like rotating the captaincy.

Frankly, I'm amazed that we're even having a discussion about him at this stage, such has been the drastic and immediate improvement he made after taking over from Bruce.

Head coaches can come in and do what they like to stamp authority it's just that he made a nosie or reporting in media of his ideas to captain rotation and it hasn't materialized
Been dropping points but from winning or positive positions

Ok we need time and give his fairness however having made an impact football wise we cant afford it to slip now.

Just frustrating that's all.

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Bizarre. Who cares whose captain? You need leaders everywhere which was likely what he was alluding to.

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Presser on official site from 1pm.

[footyskillz]

He's started looking old already, I hope to god that this job isn't a step to far, there's an awful lot of expectation on his shoulders. Is he the new messiah? I have a nagging doubt it's going to be all too much for him.
Obviously I hope I'm wrong.

You are wrong.

For me it's from tomorrow when the judgement starts as the the excuse of not his players won't be applicable.

January is where he can start to shape the squad the way he wants it so that should be where judgment starts. Already signing a keeper is a positive start so that gives me confidence.

Which of his signings are playing tomorrow then?

How much are they ever gonna be his signings anyway?

He's a head coach

The Kalinic was scouted before and someone who was on radar nothing to do with Smith.

Elphick ?! Was that his decision or JT or club to bring him back ?

Basically unless they are Brentford players coming in could well be targets scouted from a well worn list .

The players identify have to fit his footballing philosophy but will this happen now or in summer .

The other elephant in the room is Smith will be loved by some whatever he does because he's villa and because he's not Bruce

That's a dangerous call and game.

Let's be fair and call it how it is.

Dropped points and some tactics , defending and subs have been underwhelming.

Deano is on the right track and think will win more than he loses but he's somewhat naive in his front foot , pressing game .

I respect he has a set system but with the players he could be flexible to play more than one central striker.

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You're blaming Smith for an awful defence made weaker? After a run whereby we've only lost 1?

[footyskillz]

Bizarre. Who cares whose captain? You need leaders everywhere which was likely what he was alluding to.

https://www.brentfordfc.com/news/2018/august/dean-on-captaincy/

Actually he cared . It's not bizarre bloody good idea and  not just text book management and morale speak
He liked to give everyone at Brentford a taste of the leadership.
I post a link check out what he says and he had a perfect opportunity to come in and do the same with his leadership idea at Villa.

At brentford his vision was to create an environment of leaders rather than followers.

I prefer if he sticks to his ideas all the way like he does with his one central striker beliefs.

If you watch this then we can all decide and wonder as to why he hasn't implemented his idea of captain rotation and creating a collective responsibility .

It would have been really good to bring that method in and give everyone an idea of inclusion.

Maybe  he not being allowed to implement his ideas or he some reason changed his beliefs ?

Actually disappointed that he has nt followed through with this as he seems genuine but it's like politician speak when I watch this .

He even name checks JT as captain of seasons past and need for more leaders in the game

Banging on about collective responsibility

" Everyone's seems to be searching for leaders in the game ..."

Bielsa would  stick to his methods,.

Come on deano have the gumption to enforfe your collective responsibility ideas

[ChicagoLion]

Comparing Smith at this stage with Bruce is nonsense.
Bruce only got stick and from a few when it became obvious he would not make the play offs in his first season.
I think Smith has made some errors but he is operating under some severe limitations thanks to injuries and Bruce having lost the plot.