Dean Smith - Confirmed

[Ad@m]

In a nutshell for me it is clear that Dean wants the job not the money.   All our managers since and including MON have been mercenaries.  They have been bought off the shelf marked "Experienced, Safe Pair of Hands" or in Sherwood's case "Inexperienced but well regarded by the London Media close friend of the Villa CEO.".  At last we have owners prepared to buy from the "Young, Dynamic, Ambitious, Hard working" shelf.  We must value him.

Eh?

We've had 8 permanent mangers since MON and whilst you can absolutely put Bruce, McLeish and potentially Houllier in to the bracket of "Experienced, Safe Pair of Hands" I wouldn't describe any of them as mercenary.

We went fully down the "young, dynamic, ambitious" route with Lambert and Garde and to a lesser extent, RDM.

I don't recognise any of our recent mangers as being "experienced mercenaries".

[chrisw1]

In a nutshell for me it is clear that Dean wants the job not the money.   All our managers since and including MON have been mercenaries.  They have been bought off the shelf marked "Experienced, Safe Pair of Hands" or in Sherwood's case "Inexperienced but well regarded by the London Media close friend of the Villa CEO.".  At last we have owners prepared to buy from the "Young, Dynamic, Ambitious, Hard working" shelf.  We must value him.

Eh?

We've had 8 permanent mangers since MON and whilst you can absolutely put Bruce, McLeish and potentially Houllier in to the bracket of "Experienced, Safe Pair of Hands" I wouldn't describe any of them as mercenary.

We went fully down the "young, dynamic, ambitious" route with Lambert and Garde and to a lesser extent, RDM.

I don't recognise any of our recent mangers as being "experienced mercenaries".

Exactly, this is just the usual hyperbolic bullshit.  They have ranged from young and exiting to old and experienced.  From shite to highly promising.  I strongly suspect all were paid roughly the gong rate and were keen to be a success not have their careers blighted by failure at one of the bigger clubs they were likely to manage. 

[itbrvilla]

In a nutshell for me it is clear that Dean wants the job not the money.   All our managers since and including MON have been mercenaries.  They have been bought off the shelf marked "Experienced, Safe Pair of Hands" or in Sherwood's case "Inexperienced but well regarded by the London Media close friend of the Villa CEO.".  At last we have owners prepared to buy from the "Young, Dynamic, Ambitious, Hard working" shelf.  We must value him.

Eh?

We've had 8 permanent mangers since MON and whilst you can absolutely put Bruce, McLeish and potentially Houllier in to the bracket of "Experienced, Safe Pair of Hands" I wouldn't describe any of them as mercenary.

We went fully down the "young, dynamic, ambitious" route with Lambert and Garde and to a lesser extent, RDM.

I don't recognise any of our recent mangers as being "experienced mercenaries".

Exactly, this is just the usual hyperbolic bullshit.  They have ranged from young and exiting to old and experienced.  From shite to highly promising.  I strongly suspect all were paid roughly the gong rate and were keen to be a success not have their careers blighted by failure at one of the bigger clubs they were likely to manage. 

There was a post on here that showed McLeish was one of the highest paid managers on the planet when he signed for us. Although I cant find it anywhere. 

[tomd2103]

In a nutshell for me it is clear that Dean wants the job not the money.   All our managers since and including MON have been mercenaries.  They have been bought off the shelf marked "Experienced, Safe Pair of Hands" or in Sherwood's case "Inexperienced but well regarded by the London Media close friend of the Villa CEO.".  At last we have owners prepared to buy from the "Young, Dynamic, Ambitious, Hard working" shelf.  We must value him.

Eh?

We've had 8 permanent mangers since MON and whilst you can absolutely put Bruce, McLeish and potentially Houllier in to the bracket of "Experienced, Safe Pair of Hands" I wouldn't describe any of them as mercenary.

We went fully down the "young, dynamic, ambitious" route with Lambert and Garde and to a lesser extent, RDM.

I don't recognise any of our recent mangers as being "experienced mercenaries".

Exactly, this is just the usual hyperbolic bullshit.  They have ranged from young and exiting to old and experienced.  From shite to highly promising.  I strongly suspect all were paid roughly the gong rate and were keen to be a success not have their careers blighted by failure at one of the bigger clubs they were likely to manage. 

There was a post on here that showed McLeish was one of the highest paid managers on the planet when he signed for us. Although I cant find it anywhere.

I remember reading something at the time saying he was in the top 20.  I think the one thing Dean Smith is showing that his predecessors didn't is a burning ambition for both himself and the club.  The first thing most of our recent managers have done is pour cold water on any ambitions fans might have had for the club and tried to tell us that we should be satisfied bumping along the bottom reaches of the Premier League and then mid-table of the Championship. 

[The Edge]

Good stuff so far, keep it up Smithy.

I do think some people are getting a bit over excited though - there's a long, long way to go yet.

I'm not getting over excited. I just think Deano could be our Alex Ferguson.

[Whiney MacWhineface]

Good stuff so far, keep it up Smithy.

I do think some people are getting a bit over excited though - there's a long, long way to go yet.

In not getting over excited. I just think Deano could be our Alex Ferguson.

I confess to being over-excited. Mea culpa.

[clash city rocker]

I know that Dean has only had 6 games in charge but the last time I was this positive was the day MON signed.

[SamTheMouse]

Things are going well at the moment. We'll find out whether he really is the new messiah when we hit a bad patch, so there's no point going overboard yet, but it's hard not to get a bit excited.

His demeanour is great, he says the right things, he's clearly a student of the game and a thinker, and he has a clear footballing ethos that is built around winning the ball high up the pitch and creating chances. It makes for entertaining stuff. The players seem to have taken to him, too.

He might just be the manager we've all been waiting for for so long.

[clash city rocker]

Things are going well at the moment. We'll find out whether he really is the new messiah when we hit a bad patch, so there's no point going overboard yet, but it's hard not to get a bit excited.

His demeanour is great, he says the right things, he's clearly a student of the game and a thinker, and he has a clear footballing ethos that is built around winning the ball high up the pitch and creating chances. It makes for entertaining stuff. The players seem to have taken to him, too.

He might just be the manager we've all been waiting for for so long.

I so bloody hope so.

[tomd2103]

Things are going well at the moment. We'll find out whether he really is the new messiah when we hit a bad patch, so there's no point going overboard yet, but it's hard not to get a bit excited.

His demeanour is great, he says the right things, he's clearly a student of the game and a thinker, and he has a clear footballing ethos that is built around winning the ball high up the pitch and creating chances. It makes for entertaining stuff. The players seem to have taken to him, too.

He might just be the manager we've all been waiting for for so long.

Agree with that Sam.  As it stands, he hasn't even had the chance yet to fully assemble his backroom team (both the coaching staff and other support staff) let alone start piecing together the team the way he wants it.

[brian green]

I stand by every word of what I said about the size of the pay package was to a greater or lesser degree an inducement to come to the Villa for our managers post MON. I genuinely think the money was secondary to Dean Smith. 

[clash city rocker]

I stand by every word of what I said about the size of the pay package was to a greater or lesser degree an inducement to come to the Villa for our managers post MON. I genuinely think the money was secondary to Dean Smith.

Agree that the money wasn't Dean's priority.

[PeterWithesShin]

Well of course it was "greater or lesser". Dean Smith wouldn't be manager if we offered to pay him £200 a week. Jack wouldn't be here if we offered £500 a week and so on. Every single person employed full time by Villa is here because of the money paid.

[PeterWithesShin]

And if you think money doesn't play a part ask yourself who you reckon over the 5 years has taken a pay cut to leave their job to join the Villa.

[Clampy]

I think for some manager's, it was a step up as well especially for the likes of Lambert and Mcleish. It was always a no brainer for Smith but I'm sure he would have known what kind of deal Bruce and previous managers would have been on. Despite the money though, it is still a prestigious job to hold.