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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5160 on: December 09, 2019, 02:45:23 PM »
The next two games are absolutely massive for our season.

We have Sheffield United away on Saturday, while Southampton have West Ham at home.  We then play Southampton ourselves.  Two defeats for us and we could be a few points from safety, which would be an absolute disaster.  I don't think it will happen, but it's not beyond the realms of possibility, and if it does I think Smith could well be for the chop.

I doubt very much they would sack him so soon after giving him a 4 year contract.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5161 on: December 09, 2019, 02:58:51 PM »
The next two games are absolutely massive for our season.

We have Sheffield United away on Saturday, while Southampton have West Ham at home.  We then play Southampton ourselves.  Two defeats for us and we could be a few points from safety, which would be an absolute disaster.  I don't think it will happen, but it's not beyond the realms of possibility, and if it does I think Smith could well be for the chop.

You could be right about Smith if results go against us for the rest of this month.  Leicester success is down to some very astute signings but also changing the manager when it isnít working

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5162 on: December 09, 2019, 03:04:55 PM »
I doubt very much they would sack him so soon after giving him a 4 year contract.
Agreed.  It just seems to go against the club's approach these days.  I expect he'll still be here even if we go down.  Not that I think that's necessarily the best idea.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5163 on: December 09, 2019, 03:05:16 PM »
Leicester success is down to some very astute signings but also changing the manager when it isnít working

Or taking an upgrade when the opportunity arises. Same at Spurs. Obviously I'm not calling for us to replace Dean now but when that day does come I'd prefer we do it from a position of strength, preferably in the summer rather than bringing in a firefighter midseason.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5164 on: December 09, 2019, 03:17:01 PM »
Leicester's last 3 appointments have been firefighting during the season to some degree.

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« Reply #5165 on: December 09, 2019, 03:41:24 PM »
You're right, I was thinking more the transition from Pearson to Ranieri.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5166 on: December 09, 2019, 04:05:07 PM »
The next two games are absolutely massive for our season.

We have Sheffield United away on Saturday, while Southampton have West Ham at home.  We then play Southampton ourselves.  Two defeats for us and we could be a few points from safety, which would be an absolute disaster.  I don't think it will happen, but it's not beyond the realms of possibility, and if it does I think Smith could well be for the chop.

I doubt very much they would sack him so soon after giving him a 4 year contract.

A month or so is a long time in football.  It was a mistake giving him the new contract when they did, and if we do get cut adrift, that will be very clear to them.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5167 on: December 09, 2019, 04:10:13 PM »
As we don't what his original contract was we have no idea when it was due to run out, we have no idea what clauses are in the new one so saying it was a mistake is just a guess as the only people that know those things are the club, DS etc. With the run of fixtures we have comig up if results and perfomrnaces are poor I think his job will be under threat and the new contract won't change that.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5168 on: December 09, 2019, 04:14:27 PM »
I'd be amazed if he's sacked, even if we are rock bottom.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5169 on: December 09, 2019, 04:50:13 PM »
As we don't what his original contract was we have no idea when it was due to run out, we have no idea what clauses are in the new one so saying it was a mistake is just a guess as the only people that know those things are the club, DS etc. With the run of fixtures we have comig up if results and perfomrnaces are poor I think his job will be under threat and the new contract won't change that.

We don't know what it was, but I'd be a bit surprised if it was due to run out so quickly, and certainly not in the middle of November.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5170 on: December 09, 2019, 05:00:06 PM »
It may well have been due to run out in the summer and there was an agreement in place he'd get a new one if we went up, both parties may have wanted clauses added, as you say we don't know so it's hard to say it was a mistake, same as it's hard to say it was the right decision.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5171 on: December 09, 2019, 05:15:39 PM »
As we don't what his original contract was we have no idea when it was due to run out, we have no idea what clauses are in the new one so saying it was a mistake is just a guess as the only people that know those things are the club, DS etc. With the run of fixtures we have comig up if results and perfomrnaces are poor I think his job will be under threat and the new contract won't change that.

We don't know what it was, but I'd be a bit surprised if it was due to run out so quickly, and certainly not in the middle of November.

There could've been a clause to renegotiate after a year based milestones and that took a couple of weeks, seems to line up pretty well.

After that the 4 years is only a problem if there isn't a clause limiting the pay out should he be sacked, I'd be surprised if that wasn't there so the length of the contract doesn't really change things very much.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5172 on: December 09, 2019, 05:48:48 PM »
As we don't what his original contract was we have no idea when it was due to run out, we have no idea what clauses are in the new one so saying it was a mistake is just a guess as the only people that know those things are the club, DS etc. With the run of fixtures we have comig up if results and perfomrnaces are poor I think his job will be under threat and the new contract won't change that.

We don't know what it was, but I'd be a bit surprised if it was due to run out so quickly, and certainly not in the middle of November.

There could've been a clause to renegotiate after a year based milestones and that took a couple of weeks, seems to line up pretty well.

After that the 4 years is only a problem if there isn't a clause limiting the pay out should he be sacked, I'd be surprised if that wasn't there so the length of the contract doesn't really change things very much.
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What's the point of the contract then ?

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5173 on: December 09, 2019, 05:55:02 PM »
If he goes he will get the standard 12 month payout.  They probably just give him four years in case any other club wanted him.  Juve for example.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #5174 on: December 09, 2019, 06:03:55 PM »
As we don't what his original contract was we have no idea when it was due to run out, we have no idea what clauses are in the new one so saying it was a mistake is just a guess as the only people that know those things are the club, DS etc. With the run of fixtures we have comig up if results and perfomrnaces are poor I think his job will be under threat and the new contract won't change that.

We don't know what it was, but I'd be a bit surprised if it was due to run out so quickly, and certainly not in the middle of November.

There could've been a clause to renegotiate after a year based milestones and that took a couple of weeks, seems to line up pretty well.

After that the 4 years is only a problem if there isn't a clause limiting the pay out should he be sacked, I'd be surprised if that wasn't there so the length of the contract doesn't really change things very much.
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What's the point of the contract then ?

because unless a clause gets triggered it runs. The clause would be something like 'in the bottom 3' or 'x points from safety' or something similar, which gives the club some control. It gets balanced by clauses the other way that give Smith renegotiation rights. It's really not unusual.

 


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