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Offline LukeJames

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14760 on: October 16, 2021, 07:21:23 PM »
Losing a 2 goal lead with 10 minutes to go is unacceptable.

The first 2 goals were pathetic to conceed.

Get him gone asap.

This is a genuine question - do you think any team which surrenders a two goal lead should sack their manager?
With 10 minutes to go? Yes.

He's made a right gaff in the second half, but to suggest to get him gone asap is bonkers. Maybe Klopp should have been sacked being mauled by a Smith side last season.
Did Klopp lose 2-3 after being 2-0 up with  ten minutes to go?

I cant get my head around how bad that management was.
Other teams have lost a 2, or 3 goal lead. You don’t sack the manager.
With 10 minutes too go? Who?

Offline martin o`who??

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14761 on: October 16, 2021, 07:22:59 PM »
Suddenly Smith is being criticised for us giving away a two goal lead and losing 3-2 but I seem to remember us doing that very same thing under the great Ron Saunders in 1979 against Spurs at VP - we were 2:0 up with nine minutes to go and lost 3:2 with Hoddle chipping Rimmer for the Winner down the Witton.

Offline pauliewalnuts

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14762 on: October 16, 2021, 07:24:16 PM »
Suddenly Smith is being criticised for us giving away a two goal lead and losing 3-2 but I seem to remember us doing that very same thing under the great Ron Saunders in1979 against Spurs at VP - we were 2:0 up with nine minutes to go and lost 3:2 with Hoddle chipping Rimmer for the Winner down the Witton.

What's that got to do with anything? You're comparing two individual matches in isolation with no regard to what has happened in previous matches.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14763 on: October 16, 2021, 07:24:30 PM »
I love Dean and think he's perfect for us in every possible way with one exception; the football.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14764 on: October 16, 2021, 07:24:43 PM »
Losing a 2 goal lead with 10 minutes to go is unacceptable.

The first 2 goals were pathetic to conceed.

Get him gone asap.

This is a genuine question - do you think any team which surrenders a two goal lead should sack their manager?
With 10 minutes to go? Yes.

He's made a right gaff in the second half, but to suggest to get him gone asap is bonkers. Maybe Klopp should have been sacked being mauled by a Smith side last season.
Did Klopp lose 2-3 after being 2-0 up with  ten minutes to go?

I cant get my head around how bad that management was.
Other teams have lost a 2, or 3 goal lead. You don’t sack the manager.
With 10 minutes too go? Who?
You still don’t sack the manager because of this. Christ almighty.

Offline pauliewalnuts

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14765 on: October 16, 2021, 07:26:16 PM »
I love Dean and think he's perfect for us in every possible way with one exception; the football.

Joking apart, the problem is game management.

I think he's a decent coach and a good 'manager' in a lot of senses, but when it comes to game management, he tends to do three things way too often - make NO changes, make changes too late, or make the wrong ones.

Offline Demitri_C

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14766 on: October 16, 2021, 07:28:00 PM »
This reminds me of the leeds game when we lost 3-2 at villa park. You dont get unlucky twice.

Smiths not leading us to Europe any time soon i am afraid. A truly dreadful result

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14767 on: October 16, 2021, 07:29:13 PM »
I love Dean and think he's perfect for us in every possible way with one exception; the football.

Joking apart, the problem is game management.

I think he's a decent coach and a good 'manager' in a lot of senses, but when it comes to game management, he tends to do three things way too often - make NO changes, make changes too late, or make the wrong ones.

Yep it’s very rare you can point to situations where Dean has been able to change things in a positive way once things go against us.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14768 on: October 16, 2021, 07:29:40 PM »
I love Dean and think he's perfect for us in every possible way with one exception; the football.

Joking apart, the problem is game management.

I think he's a decent coach and a good 'manager' in a lot of senses, but when it comes to game management, he tends to do three things way too often - make NO changes, make changes too late, or make the wrong ones.

He’s a superb coach, absolutely. But have to agree it’s certainly his weakness. Not adjusting to situations within games. So frustrating, that’s where we cock up so often.

Offline LukeJames

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14769 on: October 16, 2021, 07:30:02 PM »
Losing a 2 goal lead with 10 minutes to go is unacceptable.

The first 2 goals were pathetic to conceed.

Get him gone asap.

This is a genuine question - do you think any team which surrenders a two goal lead should sack their manager?
With 10 minutes to go? Yes.

He's made a right gaff in the second half, but to suggest to get him gone asap is bonkers. Maybe Klopp should have been sacked being mauled by a Smith side last season.
Did Klopp lose 2-3 after being 2-0 up with  ten minutes to go?

I cant get my head around how bad that management was.
Other teams have lost a 2, or 3 goal lead. You don’t sack the manager.
With 10 minutes too go? Who?
You still don’t sack the manager because of this. Christ almighty.
His game management is awful, this is the biggest single example of that.

Offline ChicagoLion

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14770 on: October 16, 2021, 07:32:21 PM »
But it is hard to see how a manager can be successful if you can not manage games.
It is his Achilles heel.

Offline kippaxvilla2

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14771 on: October 16, 2021, 07:32:46 PM »
You always felt he was never destined to take Brentford up.  They got to around the play off zones season in season out but God awful bad patches used to cost them in the end and everyone thought what a great season they’ve had.  Since he left they have been promoted.  Exactly the same sort of thing is happening here with him in charge.  Gash results after such promising ones.  It depends what the ambition is.  If it’s to just stay mid to lower mid table then there’s no point replacing him.  But It is my firmly held belief that he will never get us into Europe. 

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14772 on: October 16, 2021, 07:33:12 PM »
Another year of no European football. ::)

Miles away from europe
Yes that's absolutely clear and nailed on after 8 games...yes EIGHT.

Offline gpbarr

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14773 on: October 16, 2021, 07:34:09 PM »
Bonkers suggestion, absolutely bonkers. 10 mins of madness undoes 3 years of terrific overall management. I was quite depressed at 5pm but this post made me smile again! 

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14774 on: October 16, 2021, 07:34:14 PM »
But it is hard to see how a manager can be successful if you can not manage games.
It is his Achilles heel.
So he didn't manage Everton or Newcastle games?

 


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