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Author Topic: Jesús García Pitarch - binned  (Read 97983 times)

Offline ozzjim

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Re: Jesús García Pitarch - binned
« Reply #270 on: July 27, 2020, 10:44:30 PM »
Nakamba is a decent squad player.

Luiz was a brilliant signing.

Wesley, Trez and Samatta not so.

Suso hasn't done great, but also not as badly as its made out.

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Re: Jesús García Pitarch - binned
« Reply #271 on: July 27, 2020, 10:47:50 PM »
Got to be honest this does sound alarm bells for me slightly. It's nothing to do with the job Suso has done but more that it brings the ownership's judgement into question for pretty much the first time (other than maybe Bruce).

For whatever reason they obviously thought he was the right man for the job and it hasn't worked. Hopefully it was just a one off mistake and not something they are going to repeat. If we have to keep changing high profile roles at the club because we keep appointing the wrong people, we'll only go backwards. I think stability is going to be key to any long term success.
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Re: Jesús García Pitarch - binned
« Reply #272 on: July 27, 2020, 10:51:51 PM »
Maybe Suso was the best we could attract back in the Championship. Now we are in the market for better?

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Re: Jesús García Pitarch - binned
« Reply #273 on: July 27, 2020, 11:16:52 PM »
Nakamba is shite.

For me, it's accepting players that crap which is what got us into such a mess this season in the first place. Wesley, Nakamba, Samatta, Jota, Drinkwater (!!), possibly Targett not good enough.

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Re: Jesús García Pitarch - binned
« Reply #274 on: July 27, 2020, 11:17:31 PM »
Got to be honest this does sound alarm bells for me slightly. It's nothing to do with the job Suso has done but more that it brings the ownership's judgement into question for pretty much the first time (other than maybe Bruce).

For whatever reason they obviously thought he was the right man for the job and it hasn't worked. Hopefully it was just a one off mistake and not something they are going to repeat. If we have to keep changing high profile roles at the club because we keep appointing the wrong people, we'll only go backwards. I think stability is going to be key to any long term success.

I don’t think for one minute Suso was the owners man. That’s what they appoint a CEO for. 

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Re: Jesús García Pitarch - binned
« Reply #275 on: July 27, 2020, 11:19:09 PM »
Nakamba is shite.

For me, it's accepting players that crap which is what got us into such a mess this season in the first place. Wesley, Nakamba, Samatta, Jota, Drinkwater (!!), possibly Targett not good enough.

Correct. Nakamba is shite. No where near good enough and if we have serious intentions of being comfortably mid table next year then he gets no where the side.

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Re: Jesús García Pitarch - binned
« Reply #276 on: July 27, 2020, 11:22:11 PM »
Nakamba isn't shite. Lots of people were saying the same about Luiz a few months ago, and said the same about Gana Gueye. I reckon he'll come good.

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Re: Jesús García Pitarch - binned
« Reply #277 on: July 27, 2020, 11:25:01 PM »
We used to think Reo-Coker was poor in his inability to reliably pass the ball three feet to a team-mate, but he's Rodri compared to Nakamba.

I've seen absolutely nothing to suggest he's got it. It doesn't really matter, though, as I am sure we'll get the chance to see him try again soon enough, but to my mind he's emblematic of the piss poor markets we spent a lot of money in last summer.

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Re: Jesús García Pitarch - binned
« Reply #278 on: July 27, 2020, 11:27:23 PM »
Got to be honest this does sound alarm bells for me slightly. It's nothing to do with the job Suso has done but more that it brings the ownership's judgement into question for pretty much the first time (other than maybe Bruce).

For whatever reason they obviously thought he was the right man for the job and it hasn't worked. Hopefully it was just a one off mistake and not something they are going to repeat. If we have to keep changing high profile roles at the club because we keep appointing the wrong people, we'll only go backwards. I think stability is going to be key to any long term success.

I don’t think for one minute Suso was the owners man. That’s what they appoint a CEO for. 

A fair point although I would still doubt that they would not have the final say on a position like this.

On the basis he was Purslow's man you would have to say questions would then need to be asked of him. Either way we still have people involved in the club who have made errors in judgement regarding the original appointment.

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Re: Jesús García Pitarch - binned
« Reply #279 on: July 27, 2020, 11:28:50 PM »
That’s not a good sign imo.  Who has been planning this window’s transfers? 
Unless we’ve extracted the information required and politely sacked him I think it is a worry that we will be reliant just on the manager to sign this year’s new players.

Guess in the short term DS will submit a list of 5-6 to go after and we'll try to sign some of them which seems pretty logical to me.

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Re: Jesús García Pitarch - binned
« Reply #280 on: July 27, 2020, 11:29:13 PM »
Nakamba is a bit of a nothing player at the moment.  He isn't a great passer, doesn't move the ball quickly, doesn't burst in to the oppo box and doesn't make tough tackles.  I am confused as to what kind of player he is.  I daresay, he will adjust, but he needs to be shoehorned into a type of game that suits us.  At the moment, he only gets a game because someone else is blowing out of their arse.

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Re: Jesús García Pitarch - binned
« Reply #281 on: July 27, 2020, 11:29:22 PM »
Got to be honest this does sound alarm bells for me slightly. It's nothing to do with the job Suso has done but more that it brings the ownership's judgement into question for pretty much the first time (other than maybe Bruce).

For whatever reason they obviously thought he was the right man for the job and it hasn't worked. Hopefully it was just a one off mistake and not something they are going to repeat. If we have to keep changing high profile roles at the club because we keep appointing the wrong people, we'll only go backwards. I think stability is going to be key to any long term success.

I don’t think for one minute Suso was the owners man. That’s what they appoint a CEO for.
exactly

Offline pauliewalnuts

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Re: Jesús García Pitarch - binned
« Reply #282 on: July 27, 2020, 11:30:35 PM »
Got to be honest this does sound alarm bells for me slightly. It's nothing to do with the job Suso has done but more that it brings the ownership's judgement into question for pretty much the first time (other than maybe Bruce).

For whatever reason they obviously thought he was the right man for the job and it hasn't worked. Hopefully it was just a one off mistake and not something they are going to repeat. If we have to keep changing high profile roles at the club because we keep appointing the wrong people, we'll only go backwards. I think stability is going to be key to any long term success.

I don’t think for one minute Suso was the owners man. That’s what they appoint a CEO for. 

A fair point although I would still doubt that they would not have the final say on a position like this.

On the basis he was Purslow's man you would have to say questions would then need to be asked of him. Either way we still have people involved in the club who have made errors in judgement regarding the original appointment.

Unless Pitarch was in place before Purslow was appointed, I'd see it as pretty much unthinkable that they'd appoint him as CEO and then appoint someone who reports to him over his head. That's piss poor corporate governance, I find it hard to believe Edens and Sawiris would do something like that.

Whatever, though, clearly they've realised something hasn't worked and have done something about it - although, has anyone confirmed he's been pushed rather than jumped?

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Re: Jesús García Pitarch - binned
« Reply #283 on: July 27, 2020, 11:33:32 PM »
Nakamba is shite.

For me, it's accepting players that crap which is what got us into such a mess this season in the first place. Wesley, Nakamba, Samatta, Jota, Drinkwater (!!), possibly Targett not good enough.

Was randomly watching highlights of the Everton home win the other day and Jota was actually great in that. He was only going to be a low cost squad player, surprised how little he's been used in last six months and might go back to Spain if he gets a decent offer.

We just gambled too much in key positions and just about got away with it. How we stayed up with the strikeforce contributing six goals all season is actually incredible.

Whoever is calling the shots on transfers in next few weeks needs to learn the lessons of last summer.

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Re: Jesús García Pitarch - binned
« Reply #284 on: July 27, 2020, 11:42:36 PM »
How we stayed up with the strikeforce contributing six goals all season is actually incredible.

That is remarkable.

We need to get real. Keinan Davis has scored two league goals in his entire career, both in the championship. He's the only striker I can think of in recent years who i struggle to remember even having a shot, let alone scoring. Yeah, he's a big unit and he puts himself about a bit, but he can't hit a barn door from ten paces, has the acceleration of your average ice cream van and just never looks like scoring.

Seriously, can anyone remember him looking like scoring in the top flight?

We really do need to up our standards. Relying on Wesley, Kodjia and Davis at the start of the season was absolutely insane. Wesley getting injured, Kodjia going and then relying on Davis and the utterly hopeless Samatta was insane.

Like you said, incredible we've stayed up given that.


 


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