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Online Dante Lavelli

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3180 on: October 10, 2018, 09:04:23 PM »
This is long but well worth reading, not just to hear about Smith's role* at Brentford but also to scare yourself how far behind Villa appear to be with regards to getting a structure in place. 

* this was not the article I was looking for but echos what I have read previously whereby Smith is a coach not a manager; to the point where the style of play and even specific game tactics are dictated by the directors above him.  Not a problem as he is clearly a good coach but it is risky when our next manager will probably be responsible for the whole club's footballing identity.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2718752-brentfords-moneyball-way-to-beat-football-teams-with-huge-budgets

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3181 on: October 10, 2018, 09:04:42 PM »
Playing for us almost certainly meant more to him than when at other clubs, but it's not like he was some no mark. We spent a reasonable wedge on him back then to sign him from a PL side that wanted a striker and the bonus was the offer we made meant they didn't have to pay anything to Vale. I doubt Weds were desperate to bin him considering he was playing most games for them.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3182 on: October 10, 2018, 09:08:53 PM »
I’ve decided to rule myself out of the Villa job despite not being approached or my agent being contacted. Thanks for your understanding
You are invited to join the NECFTVJ
Not even considered for the Villa job, that’s you, me and badge kisser.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3183 on: October 10, 2018, 09:11:43 PM »
I am warming to the idea of Dean Smith becoming the manager, but I don't think that it would be fair on him that we insist Terry is also part of the package. If he were to accept the job then let him decide on his own people.


Offline Jockey Randall

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3184 on: October 10, 2018, 09:20:53 PM »
I hope Smith gets it. The style of football Brentford play is just what we need imo. I think big grounds and big attendances bring certain expectations for a dominant style of play. If we can dominate the ball and learn to be productive with it in front of goal then hopefully we'll get the Villa we all want to see.

Offline VillaLoyal

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3185 on: October 10, 2018, 09:24:22 PM »
"always with an attacking philosophy".

Burn the witch!!!!

No other choice with this team than to attack as our best way to defend. As our defence is poor.

Thats been clear from the last 5 games or so.

Online Sexual Ealing

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3186 on: October 10, 2018, 09:30:51 PM »
This is long but well worth reading, not just to hear about Smith's role* at Brentford but also to scare yourself how far behind Villa appear to be with regards to getting a structure in place. 

* this was not the article I was looking for but echos what I have read previously whereby Smith is a coach not a manager; to the point where the style of play and even specific game tactics are dictated by the directors above him.  Not a problem as he is clearly a good coach but it is risky when our next manager will probably be responsible for the whole club's footballing identity.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2718752-brentfords-moneyball-way-to-beat-football-teams-with-huge-budgets

Thanks for that Dante. It's interesting, and offers more questions than answers about whether Smith is right for us. I remember suggesting, around 100 pages ago, that we just plunder the whole damn set up from Griffin Park. Sounds like it's not as easy as all that.

The principal thing I got from the whole piece was imagining that Ankersen bloke trying to explain his theories to Steve Bruce...

Offline Villafirst

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3187 on: October 10, 2018, 09:31:44 PM »
We should've gone for Dean Smith first and foremost. All this pissing around with Henry, Faria etc., has proven a waste of valuable time. I sincerely hope it's Smith & Terry....

Offline TonyD

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3188 on: October 10, 2018, 09:32:21 PM »
I think there will be Smith / Terry announcement tomorrow afternoon.   Both want the jobs.   

Online Sexual Ealing

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3189 on: October 10, 2018, 09:37:39 PM »
All the broadsheets seem to think that we're going for Smith.

Offline auntiesledd

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3190 on: October 10, 2018, 09:39:37 PM »
We should've gone for Dean Smith first and foremost. All this pissing around with Henry, Faria etc., has proven a waste of valuable time. I sincerely hope it's Smith & Terry....

Perhaps DS was always top of the list; & all the uninformed, bollox speculation has been just that?

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3191 on: October 10, 2018, 09:40:46 PM »
This is long but well worth reading, not just to hear about Smith's role* at Brentford but also to scare yourself how far behind Villa appear to be with regards to getting a structure in place. 

* this was not the article I was looking for but echos what I have read previously whereby Smith is a coach not a manager; to the point where the style of play and even specific game tactics are dictated by the directors above him.  Not a problem as he is clearly a good coach but it is risky when our next manager will probably be responsible for the whole club's footballing identity.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2718752-brentfords-moneyball-way-to-beat-football-teams-with-huge-budgets

So would Smith revert to type a la Bruce, or would he advocate a similar approach to Brentford?!?

Online VILLA MOLE

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3192 on: October 10, 2018, 09:42:10 PM »
We should've gone for Dean Smith first and foremost. All this pissing around with Henry, Faria etc., has proven a waste of valuable time. I sincerely hope it's Smith & Terry....

Perhaps DS was always top of the list; & all the uninformed, bollox speculation has been just that?


absolutely , they were tossing out links all over the shop sometimes contradicting themselves often

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3193 on: October 10, 2018, 09:42:16 PM »
I’ve decided to rule myself out of the Villa job despite not being approached or my agent being contacted. Thanks for your understanding
“ John Croft’s rules himself out of running for the Villa job. It’s  a humiliating rebuff for Aston Villa’s billionaire owners.”

Offline Dazvillain

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3194 on: October 10, 2018, 09:42:26 PM »
Smith is going to want his number 2 that has been with him for a few years..... unless he becomes the Brentford mgr

 


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