If Smith comes in I think we also get a new player.Mr.Hogan.
The problem as I see it is that Rodgers would be great for us, but if he fails to get us promoted in the next 18 months it will be deemed as a failure and he'll have blown his chances of managing in the PL forever. A Smith/Terry combo wouldn't carry the same burden (i.e. career threatening) and if they achieved a near miss as Bruce did it would probably be viewed as success, given their relative inexperience and weight of expectation.
Quote from: Chinchilla Bathhouse on October 10, 2018, 08:18:26 PMQuote from: Little Class on October 10, 2018, 07:59:18 PMBeing a Villa fan is relevant, that extra passion, commitment - like Ian Taylor who would never have made it any other PL side - and it buys some grace with the fansNow hang on, Taylor might not have been world class but as an integral member of teams that regularly finished in the top half (fourth and fifth under Little) it's nonsense to say he wouldnt have made it at any other PL side. He'd have walked into most of them. Well, he'd have sprinted into them, won the ball, laid it off and then popped up with the finish. Terrific player, whoever he'd supported.Yes, cos he played for Villa, played his fcuking heart out everytime. And he wasn't before and after for anyone else, but that still makes him a terrific player - for us.
Quote from: Little Class on October 10, 2018, 07:59:18 PMBeing a Villa fan is relevant, that extra passion, commitment - like Ian Taylor who would never have made it any other PL side - and it buys some grace with the fansNow hang on, Taylor might not have been world class but as an integral member of teams that regularly finished in the top half (fourth and fifth under Little) it's nonsense to say he wouldnt have made it at any other PL side. He'd have walked into most of them. Well, he'd have sprinted into them, won the ball, laid it off and then popped up with the finish. Terrific player, whoever he'd supported.
Being a Villa fan is relevant, that extra passion, commitment - like Ian Taylor who would never have made it any other PL side - and it buys some grace with the fans
Quote from: hilts_coolerking on October 10, 2018, 07:47:33 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on October 10, 2018, 07:38:29 PMThen there's the fact that, if he wasn't a villa fan, we wouldn't have so many people keen on him.Quite. Some have said, 'You'd like him if his name was Dean Smithio'. Well that cuts both ways; would people have considered him if was an Albion fan?Without a doubt. But then there would be a decent amount that would still think crikey, there is a guy who's team play the best football in the division most of the time and has every chance of he can recreate that style with our squad of winning a lot of games at villa. I wanted Rodgers the most as I think he has basically taken the Smith style one step further, but I am more than content to watch Smith. If his links to the club buy him time and support, so be it. And if, maybe, just that little chance he takes us up, it will be the best story in football going.
Quote from: pauliewalnuts on October 10, 2018, 07:38:29 PMThen there's the fact that, if he wasn't a villa fan, we wouldn't have so many people keen on him.Quite. Some have said, 'You'd like him if his name was Dean Smithio'. Well that cuts both ways; would people have considered him if was an Albion fan?
Then there's the fact that, if he wasn't a villa fan, we wouldn't have so many people keen on him.
Quote from: tomd2103 on October 10, 2018, 07:22:42 PMQuote from: lovejoy on October 10, 2018, 07:16:39 PMSome of the arrogance in recent posts is absolutely breathtaking. Expecting it to be realistic fir a manager to leave a successful premier league side to join us inLower championship is pure crazy. It’s not 1982 anymore.Hmmm... Sandwell or Small Heath?Piss off. I’m not posting on here for the first time.Point is we need to realise that for people who are hard nosed professionals, not fans, we aren’t as attractive as we think we are. Notwithstanding all the goodwill Howe has, Bournemouth have the income of a premier league side and we don’t. The fact we won the European cup 35 years ago won’t really be a consideration for them.
Quote from: lovejoy on October 10, 2018, 07:16:39 PMSome of the arrogance in recent posts is absolutely breathtaking. Expecting it to be realistic fir a manager to leave a successful premier league side to join us inLower championship is pure crazy. It’s not 1982 anymore.Hmmm... Sandwell or Small Heath?
Some of the arrogance in recent posts is absolutely breathtaking. Expecting it to be realistic fir a manager to leave a successful premier league side to join us inLower championship is pure crazy. It’s not 1982 anymore.
And yes...in my heart Aston Villa are a totally different place to their reality and standing for football practical people.....business types etc will see us different.
Quote from: Little Class on October 10, 2018, 08:25:05 PMQuote from: Chinchilla Bathhouse on October 10, 2018, 08:18:26 PMQuote from: Little Class on October 10, 2018, 07:59:18 PMBeing a Villa fan is relevant, that extra passion, commitment - like Ian Taylor who would never have made it any other PL side - and it buys some grace with the fansNow hang on, Taylor might not have been world class but as an integral member of teams that regularly finished in the top half (fourth and fifth under Little) it's nonsense to say he wouldnt have made it at any other PL side. He'd have walked into most of them. Well, he'd have sprinted into them, won the ball, laid it off and then popped up with the finish. Terrific player, whoever he'd supported.Yes, cos he played for Villa, played his fcuking heart out everytime. And he wasn't before and after for anyone else, but that still makes him a terrific player - for us.He played his heart out before us, he wouldn't have got near our level if he hadn't. After us he was too old and past his best.
Quote from: Chinchilla Bathhouse on October 10, 2018, 08:42:10 PMQuote from: Little Class on October 10, 2018, 08:25:05 PMQuote from: Chinchilla Bathhouse on October 10, 2018, 08:18:26 PMQuote from: Little Class on October 10, 2018, 07:59:18 PMBeing a Villa fan is relevant, that extra passion, commitment - like Ian Taylor who would never have made it any other PL side - and it buys some grace with the fansNow hang on, Taylor might not have been world class but as an integral member of teams that regularly finished in the top half (fourth and fifth under Little) it's nonsense to say he wouldnt have made it at any other PL side. He'd have walked into most of them. Well, he'd have sprinted into them, won the ball, laid it off and then popped up with the finish. Terrific player, whoever he'd supported.Yes, cos he played for Villa, played his fcuking heart out everytime. And he wasn't before and after for anyone else, but that still makes him a terrific player - for us.He played his heart out before us, he wouldn't have got near our level if he hadn't. After us he was too old and past his best.It doesn't mean that if you're a professional you wouldn't give your all for whoever you played for. But everybody on here dreamed about playing for the Villa or maybe managing the Villa or whatever. Smith would have had that dream too. It doesn't mean that's all you need to do the job but you'd hope it would make a difference.It would for me anyway.
I’ve decided to rule myself out of the Villa job despite not being approached or my agent being contacted. Thanks for your understanding