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Offline The_ads

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3030 on: October 10, 2018, 03:43:38 PM »
yep, part of our problem, the overblown sense of expectancy and the 'kill this shit league' attitude.  Whoever it is needs to be given time and patience to rebuild.  But he won't of course.

He stands more chance than most given his background. This is a big Ctrl - Alt - Delete moment I’m afraid. We are in the fucking gutter here. In fact, we should be delighted Dean Smith even entertains leaving a well run club for this shower.  If he gets the time to employ his philosophy, grit and determination we will go a long way. We no longer have any identity bar from being famous nearly 40 years ago.  Let’s reset, let’s fucking start again, and let’s have a club my kids will be proud of wearing the shirt to football training as oppose to being ridiculed.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3031 on: October 10, 2018, 03:44:04 PM »
We need to out to win every game. Play with a tempo and on the front foot. It’s not hard!

Offline tomd2103

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3032 on: October 10, 2018, 03:49:17 PM »
Can someone plz tell me more about Dean smith, what has he done for so many of u wanting him as the new manager, it most be more than "his team is playing good football and he is a villa fan from birmingham"

Nothing to do with him being a Villa fan. If you have seen his team play, the attitude he them out with irrespective of the opponent, and what he's spent to achieve that, all of it would be foreign to a Villa fan having watched Bruce the last two years.

One of the most impressive things about him is that he has improved Brentford each season he has been there despite them continually losing their best players. 

Offline frank black

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3033 on: October 10, 2018, 03:52:22 PM »
Can someone plz tell me more about Dean smith, what has he done for so many of u wanting him as the new manager, it most be more than "his team is playing good football and he is a villa fan from birmingham"

Nothing to do with him being a Villa fan. If you have seen his team play, the attitude he them out with irrespective of the opponent, and what he's spent to achieve that, all of it would be foreign to a Villa fan having watched Bruce the last two years.

One of the most impressive things about him is that he has improved Brentford each season he has been there despite them continually losing their best players. 

And turned them into promotion challengers

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3034 on: October 10, 2018, 03:52:41 PM »
Yes so his sort of management is a project - two to three years - exactly what we need.  Except for the fact that we are in financial meltdown next season when we don't go up.

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Offline badminton

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3036 on: October 10, 2018, 03:54:28 PM »
Can someone plz tell me more about Dean smith, what has he done for so many of u wanting him as the new manager, it most be more than "his team is playing good football and he is a villa fan from birmingham"

Nothing to do with him being a Villa fan. If you have seen his team play, the attitude he them out with irrespective of the opponent, and what he's spent to achieve that, all of it would be foreign to a Villa fan having watched Bruce the last two years.

One of the most impressive things about him is that he has improved Brentford each season he has been there despite them continually losing their best players. 

And turned them into promotion challengers
They finished 5th the season before he was appointed.

Offline Clark W Griswold

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3037 on: October 10, 2018, 03:54:37 PM »
I wouldn't mind him, but it would be a big step up for him as a job. I wonder whether weve got a bit of a diva squad again to some extent, it might be a bit much for him to sort that out if so. He seems used to happy go lucky good pros which I'm not sure our lot are. I suppose Terry by his side could help with that.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3038 on: October 10, 2018, 03:54:51 PM »
Lol... Got to laugh. So we have asked to speak to these people and they have said no thanks. Smith surely is the sensible choice now.

Isn’t that normal though to expect in hiring anyone for a senior position?

Aye, but appointing a football manager isn't like recruiting a duty manager at Burger King. You don't wade through a pile of CVs and work to a checklist of eligible criteria.

You know who you want, ascertain through their people whether they'd be interested in the gig in the first place - and then get the deal done.

In our situation, it might be that both Henry and Faria expressed initial interest.  But assurances about FFP or something else weren't forthcoming.

It does seem a bit Lerner-esque, having this selection process in public.  Whoever does get it then looks like third or fourth choice.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3039 on: October 10, 2018, 03:55:44 PM »
Yes so his sort of management is a project - two to three years - exactly what we need.  Except for the fact that we are in financial meltdown next season when we don't go up.

At Brentford it has to be a longer term project because he keeps losing his best players and never gets a lot to spend to improve the side. Yet somehow he has managed it. With us he'd start with a massive advantage of simply having far superior resources from the start. It's about giving the team a plan, and utilizing those resources better. Something Bruce completed wasted.

Offline Blagg

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3040 on: October 10, 2018, 03:56:28 PM »
Has Eddie Howe been ignored as a possible because he is currently doing well in the Premier League and unlikely to want to drop down a level?  We are still Aston Villa.  They are still Bournemouth.  If he has any ambition we are still a step up.  Isn’t he more qualified than Smith?

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3041 on: October 10, 2018, 03:58:41 PM »
Lol... Got to laugh. So we have asked to speak to these people and they have said no thanks. Smith surely is the sensible choice now.

Isn’t that normal though to expect in hiring anyone for a senior position?

Aye, but appointing a football manager isn't like recruiting a duty manager at Burger King. You don't wade through a pile of CVs and work to a checklist of eligible criteria.

You know who you want, ascertain through their people whether they'd be interested in the gig in the first place - and then get the deal done.

In our situation, it might be that both Henry and Faria expressed initial interest.  But assurances about FFP or something else weren't forthcoming.

It does seem a bit Lerner-esque, having this selection process in public.  Whoever does get it then looks like third or fourth choice.

It's not being conducted in public though is it? Nobody at Villa has made a single comment. The actual process is very private. It's only public in the sense that Bruce was fired, we have 24 hour sports radio and the media are guessing every day and getting it wrong every day. Gregg Evans who yesterday had it all nailed on with Faria now says it's Smith and Terry. They don't have the slightest clue.

Offline The_ads

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3042 on: October 10, 2018, 04:04:26 PM »
Has Eddie Howe been ignored as a possible because he is currently doing well in the Premier League and unlikely to want to drop down a level?  We are still Aston Villa.  They are still Bournemouth.  If he has any ambition we are still a step up.  Isn’t he more qualified than Smith?


More evidence of our inflated ego. Bournemouth are better than us. Miles ahead. More likely to win things. They are a more attractive option.  This is what all of us, collectively, need to start and accept

Offline The_ads

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3043 on: October 10, 2018, 04:06:09 PM »
I wouldn't mind him, but it would be a big step up for him as a job. I wonder whether weve got a bit of a diva squad again to some extent, it might be a bit much for him to sort that out if so. He seems used to happy go lucky good pros which I'm not sure our lot are. I suppose Terry by his side could help with that.


In pure footballing terms it’s a step down actually. They are a stable, solvent club playing free flowing good football and we are the antithesis of that.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3044 on: October 10, 2018, 04:07:21 PM »
Has Eddie Howe been ignored as a possible because he is currently doing well in the Premier League and unlikely to want to drop down a level?  We are still Aston Villa.  They are still Bournemouth.  If he has any ambition we are still a step up.  Isn’t he more qualified than Smith?


More evidence of our inflated ego. Bournemouth are better than us. Miles ahead. More likely to win things. They are a more attractive option.  This is what all of us, collectively, need to start and accept

Bournemouth have never and never will be a bigger club than Villa, and as sure as night follows day we’ll go back above them sooner or later. I’ll never accept your attitude to Villa, and why should we?

 


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