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Offline nigel

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3015 on: October 10, 2018, 03:07:53 PM »
I do get the whole, Dean Smith has never managed the club the size of Aston Villa but we need a real reality check here. We are a big club, no denying that. But we also, and think we all realise, that we haven’t won fuck all for 22 years now. There is a really healthy percentage of our fan base that have never seen us lift a trophy and for the past 7 years we have generally been pretty awful, at times embarrassing. Dean Smith knows this area, he gets the expectation, he’s from a working class background with strong Aston Villa links. His teams play good football, and I think he would galvanise a fan base that is throughly fed up and pissed off.
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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3016 on: October 10, 2018, 03:09:42 PM »
I'm guessing but I reckon we've sounded out several options 2 of whom we know either politely declined or it was mutually agreed not to take any further.

So we then make the decision based on whoever is left on the short list having I assume checked they are both a) interested and b)
can be prised away if in a job at present.

Pretty sure we are going down the Head Coach route which might exclude Rodgers.

I'd be delighted if it's Smith and Terry personally.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3017 on: October 10, 2018, 03:11:19 PM »
Can someone plz tell me more about Dean smith, what has he done for so many of u wanting him as the new manager, it most be more than "his team is playing good football and he is a villa fan from birmingham"

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3018 on: October 10, 2018, 03:13:49 PM »
I'm guessing but I reckon we've sounded out several options 2 of whom we know either politely declined or it was mutually agreed not to take any further.

So we then make the decision based on whoever is left on the short list having I assume checked they are both a) interested and b)
can be prised away if in a job at present.

Pretty sure we are going down the Head Coach route which might exclude Rodgers.

I'd be delighted if it's Smith and Terry personally.

Right now I'd be happy with Terry & June if it meant the back of MacDonald taking charge.

Offline The_ads

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3019 on: October 10, 2018, 03:15:02 PM »
I'm guessing but I reckon we've sounded out several options 2 of whom we know either politely declined or it was mutually agreed not to take any further.

So we then make the decision based on whoever is left on the short list having I assume checked they are both a) interested and b)
can be prised away if in a job at present.

Pretty sure we are going down the Head Coach route which might exclude Rodgers.

I'd be delighted if it's Smith and Terry personally.


Me too. My Dad told me a story about Ron Saunders today. Im only 38 so it was before my time, but he said we took a bit of a punt on someone unfashionable and look how it turned out. I know it’s a different era etc and not for one minute saying Smith is about to emulate those days. But a local guy, who understands what it means to be manager of this club, is the right choice as far as I’m concerned

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3020 on: October 10, 2018, 03:16:10 PM »
Well Sky had Faria as considering it at the top of the hour so that is good enough for me.....It won't be him.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3021 on: October 10, 2018, 03:17:47 PM »
Can someone plz tell me more about Dean smith, what has he done for so many of u wanting him as the new manager, it most be more than "his team is playing good football and he is a villa fan from birmingham"

Why does it need to be more. Those are two pretty good reasons notwithstanding we are no longer knocking on the door of 4th place in the Premier League. We’ve just lost to Milwall

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3022 on: October 10, 2018, 03:18:51 PM »
Can someone plz tell me more about Dean smith, what has he done for so many of u wanting him as the new manager, it most be more than "his team is playing good football and he is a villa fan from birmingham"

Why does it need to be more. Those are two pretty good reasons notwithstanding we are no longer knocking on the door of 4th place in the Premier League. We’ve just lost to Milwall

Nope, those are one (1) pretty good reasons.

Offline Damo70

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3023 on: October 10, 2018, 03:22:34 PM »
I'm guessing but I reckon we've sounded out several options 2 of whom we know either politely declined or it was mutually agreed not to take any further.

So we then make the decision based on whoever is left on the short list having I assume checked they are both a) interested and b)
can be prised away if in a job at present.

Pretty sure we are going down the Head Coach route which might exclude Rodgers.

I'd be delighted if it's Smith and Terry personally.


Me too. My Dad told me a story about Ron Saunders today. Im only 38 so it was before my time, but he said we took a bit of a punt on someone unfashionable and look how it turned out. I know it’s a different era etc and not for one minute saying Smith is about to emulate those days. But a local guy, who understands what it means to be manager of this club, is the right choice as far as I’m concerned



Saunders had previously done good jobs in the second division with Oxford and particularly Norwich where he guided them to the title and top flight football for the first time in their history and knew the division. He was also available at the time after being sacked by top flight Manchester City.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3024 on: October 10, 2018, 03:25:34 PM »
Can someone plz tell me more about Dean smith, what has he done for so many of u wanting him as the new manager, it most be more than "his team is playing good football and he is a villa fan from birmingham"

Nothing to do with him being a Villa fan. If you have seen his team play, the attitude he them out with irrespective of the opponent, and what he's spent to achieve that, all of it would be foreign to a Villa fan having watched Bruce the last two years.

Offline sirlordbaltimore

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« Reply #3025 on: October 10, 2018, 03:30:43 PM »
Can someone plz tell me more about Dean smith, what has he done for so many of u wanting him as the new manager, it most be more than "his team is playing good football and he is a villa fan from birmingham"

Nothing to do with him being a Villa fan. If you have seen his team play, the attitude he them out with irrespective of the opponent, and what he's spent to achieve that, all of it would be foreign to a Villa fan having watched Bruce the last two years.

But we're Aston Villa, and like it or not we're rarely genuine underdogs in any match in this league

Our players have to go into each match knowing they're expected to win or at least draw. Brentford can play with freedom like underdogs who aren't fancied, far less pressure doing that than being favourites every weekend. The latter requires a different mindset and much broader shoulders to carry the weight of expectations both from the manager and the players


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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3026 on: October 10, 2018, 03:37:10 PM »
Can someone plz tell me more about Dean smith, what has he done for so many of u wanting him as the new manager, it most be more than "his team is playing good football and he is a villa fan from birmingham"

Nothing to do with him being a Villa fan. If you have seen his team play, the attitude he them out with irrespective of the opponent, and what he's spent to achieve that, all of it would be foreign to a Villa fan having watched Bruce the last two years.

But we're Aston Villa, and like it or not we're rarely genuine underdogs in any match in this league

Our players have to go into each match knowing they're expected to win or at least draw. Brentford can play with freedom like underdogs who aren't fancied, far less pressure doing that than being favourites every weekend. The latter requires a different mindset and much broader shoulders to carry the weight of expectations both from the manager and the players


Exactly the reason why a bit of resetting expectations is in order. Aston Villa need a reboot. We have no divine right to go into ANY game these days expecting not to lose.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3027 on: October 10, 2018, 03:39:27 PM »
Can someone plz tell me more about Dean smith, what has he done for so many of u wanting him as the new manager, it most be more than "his team is playing good football and he is a villa fan from birmingham"

Nothing to do with him being a Villa fan. If you have seen his team play, the attitude he them out with irrespective of the opponent, and what he's spent to achieve that, all of it would be foreign to a Villa fan having watched Bruce the last two years.

But we're Aston Villa, and like it or not we're rarely genuine underdogs in any match in this league

Our players have to go into each match knowing they're expected to win or at least draw. Brentford can play with freedom like underdogs who aren't fancied, far less pressure doing that than being favourites every weekend. The latter requires a different mindset and much broader shoulders to carry the weight of expectations both from the manager and the players



They don't play like underdogs. They set up to win the game and always they believe they can. It has nothing to do with their status before kick off. That they don't win every game is that their entire squad isn't worth what Tammy Abraham is.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3028 on: October 10, 2018, 03:39:36 PM »
yep, part of our problem, the overblown sense of expectancy and the 'kill this shit league' attitude.  Whoever it is needs to be given time and patience to rebuild.  But he won't of course.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #3029 on: October 10, 2018, 03:41:38 PM »
Mindset of underdogs etc is a red herring. We need to just be coached well and play good football. If we can get Smith and Terry jobs an goodun. Do it.

 


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