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Online john2710

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2940 on: October 10, 2018, 12:29:32 PM »
So now Faria 1/4 and Smith's odds have shortened to 2/1 with Terry lengthening considerably to 14/1....
Which proves that they generally have no idea.

Offline auntiesledd

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2941 on: October 10, 2018, 12:31:06 PM »
As appealing as the position might still be, I realise we're all looking at this appointment through our permanent claret & blue lenses. I do seriously wonder if all the 'names' that have been - and continue to be - linked with our hot-seat will want to risk their reputations if they were to fail to get us up at the end of the season. It should be a concern to everyone that we might be clobbered by FFP sanctions if the unpalatable happens, which will certainly neccesitate a very different MO to that which has existed to date. This is why I'm leaning towards a Dean Smith appointment - since he has shown that he can manage teams that are reliant on a completely different approach to the countless millions we have chucked at underachievement and subsequent failure. Whether our owners are looking for such a model, I don't know: but I sincerely hope that they will recognise that the mistakes of the past cannot be repeated in the present & the future.

Offline sirlordbaltimore

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2942 on: October 10, 2018, 12:32:16 PM »

Don't underestimate how modern players react differently to managers.

Henry/Terry walk in, they're all buoyed and eager to impress their probable footballing idols regardless of eithers managerial experience

Rodgers walks in, they know he's done it at Liverpool and Celtic

Bruce, they knew him as a player and that he'd done the job asked before in the recent past

Smith walks in, they might think 'so he's done ok at Brentford'

Not saying it's right, and that's not a slight on Smith's abilities but footballers can be a funny lot. Throw in Terry as Smith's number two (if the latter would even accept that) and you might have a slightly different reaction





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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2943 on: October 10, 2018, 12:34:48 PM »
And Faria, well he's coached where? Blimey. He's won what? Crikey. He's coached who? Fuck me. He knows John Terry and bringing him with him? Get in, we'll learn a lot here guys.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2944 on: October 10, 2018, 12:44:37 PM »
Rui Faria walks in and they think ‘he’s done some really great documentaries including one about that weirdo Savile.’

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2945 on: October 10, 2018, 12:47:36 PM »
Rui Faria walks in and they think ‘he’s done some really great documentaries including one about that weirdo Savile.’

Blimey, not more weird weekends

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2946 on: October 10, 2018, 12:50:10 PM »

Don't underestimate how modern players react differently to managers.

Henry/Terry walk in, they're all buoyed and eager to impress their probable footballing idols regardless of eithers managerial experience

Rodgers walks in, they know he's done it at Liverpool and Celtic

Bruce, they knew him as a player and that he'd done the job asked before in the recent past

Smith walks in, they might think 'so he's done ok at Brentford'

Not saying it's right, and that's not a slight on Smith's abilities but footballers can be a funny lot. Throw in Terry as Smith's number two (if the latter would even accept that) and you might have a slightly different reaction

Houllier had managed big clubs and won trophies.
Lambert had won the Champions League as a player.
Garde won trophies at Arsenal as a player and was capped for his country.
Sherwood had managed Tottenham and was capped for his country.
Bruce was, as you said known to them as a manager who had 'done the job before' and high profile player.

Not one of them managed to get a consistently good performance from the squad, so it can't have been that big an advantage.

Offline auntiesledd

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2947 on: October 10, 2018, 12:54:11 PM »
Rui Faria walks in and they think ‘he’s done some really great documentaries including one about that weirdo Savile.’

Ha ha - many a true word... :)

ps I was actually thinking more along the lines of: "Wikid man, I fink he done some really big choonz back in the day".

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2948 on: October 10, 2018, 12:54:59 PM »
Monday is was Moyes, Tuesday it was Henry, today it’s Faria and Terry, tomorrow it will be Rodgers or Smith. I will believe it when I see it.

Thursday, Friday and Saturday will be Craig David, then on Sunday we'll just chill.


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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2949 on: October 10, 2018, 12:57:52 PM »
It's true that a few high profile assistants have become terrible managers, but some have become outstanding managers, Mourinho himself, Low, Vilanova, Rodgers was a youth manager as was Pep. If it is Faria I don't think we should be running for the hills.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2950 on: October 10, 2018, 01:05:08 PM »
So just to summarise, high profile assistants have been good and bad managers, great players have been good and bad managers, crap players have been good and bad managers and managers of ‘small’ clubs may or may not be attractive to us ;-)

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2951 on: October 10, 2018, 01:12:11 PM »
Faria walks in and most players say, who the fuck is that?

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2952 on: October 10, 2018, 01:17:16 PM »
Faria walks in and most players say, who the fuck is that?

I'm more interested in their reaction 3 hours later.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2953 on: October 10, 2018, 01:18:31 PM »
So now Faria 1/4 and Smith's odds have shortened to 2/1 with Terry lengthening considerably to 14/1....
Which proves that they generally have no idea.
excuse my ignorance if I’m wrong here, but aren’t the early odds set by the bookies to create a market and then on, just a market that reacts to people betting in it? So the odds now say compared to when Bruce got sacked are just a reflection of money staked by punters at this point in time?

As someone else said earlier, nobody seems to really have a clue who will get the job, by the looks of the betting.

I always have a look at the bookies odds when doing the pre-match score predictions, but this seems quite a different set of circumstances to my mind.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2954 on: October 10, 2018, 01:19:25 PM »
Rui Faria walks in and they think ‘he’s done some really great documentaries including one about that weirdo Savile.’

Blimey, not more weird weekends

Well we do have the Noses soon.

 


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