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Offline Toronto Villa

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2385 on: October 07, 2018, 11:43:24 PM »
In the end, based on what we know I'm glad given our realistic choices it appears to be down to Henry or Rodgers. Versus discussing the choice between Moyes, Allardyce or Pulis etc

Offline robleflaneur

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2386 on: October 08, 2018, 12:18:24 AM »
I hope that I've got it right but our preferences are so far after 411 votes: 1:Fonseca      2:Smith    3 : Rodgers      these 3 way ahead
4:Managers not on the list :  5: Henry    6: Benitez    7: Arteta  8: Flores 9: Ranieri
10 : Terry  and the also rans Allardyce,Moyes and Carvahal.

What's not in dispute is the type of football and manager that those who voted want unless Pulis and McCarthy got most of the 45 other votes.
It would be nice to know who got the Other votes.Howe ? Faria ? Wilder ?Alex Bruce ?



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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2387 on: October 08, 2018, 01:07:02 AM »
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Henry/Terry excites me - experience or not, they were both part of football dynasties and at the very top of the game - feel it would really motivate and inspire the team.

It might give an initial uplift.

But as we have seen with Roy Keane and countless many others, it's only worth an intro.

If you act like a knob (Keane) or start to phone it in because you believe the job is beneath you (O'Leary) players soon get wise to that. It doesn't matter then what you achieved in your own playing career.

That's why there's a reasonable argument to go with a manager who had an undistinguished playing career. They have innovated as managers because they've had to. And once you start thinking that way, you're always looking to stay ahead of the curve. As opposed to a Strachan/ O'Neill/ Pardew deadhead.

In fairness to Terry, he did seem genuinely popular around the place and was cited by many players as a good example re training and preparation. If he is involved at all, I can't see him giving it any less than 100 per cent.

But the job being what it is is still too big for a pair of novices.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2388 on: October 08, 2018, 01:09:59 AM »
The football would be boring under Faria.

I could live with boring..

Porto (2002–2004)

    2002–03 Primeira Liga
    2002–03 Ta็a de Portugal
    2002–03 UEFA Cup
    2003 Superta็a Cโndido de Oliveira
    2003–04 Primeira Liga
    2003–04 UEFA Champions League

Chelsea (2004–2007)

    2004–05 FA Premier League
    2004–05 League Cup
    2005 FA Community Shield
    2005–06 FA Premier League
    2006–07 League Cup
    2006–07 FA Cup

Internazionale (2008–2010)

    2008 Supercoppa Italiana
    2008–09 Serie A
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Real Madrid (2010–2013)

    2010–11 Copa del Rey
    2011–12 La Liga
    2012 Supercopa de Espa๑a

Chelsea (2013–2015)

    2014–15 League Cup
    2014–15 Premier League

Manchester United (2016– )

    2016 FA Community Shield
    2016–17 EFL Cup
    2016–17 UEFA Europa League

The Treble (League, Cup and European trophies)

    2002–03 with Porto: League, Cup and UEFA Cup
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Offline Brassneck

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2389 on: October 08, 2018, 01:15:58 AM »
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Henry/Terry excites me - experience or not, they were both part of football dynasties and at the very top of the game - feel it would really motivate and inspire the team.

It might give an initial uplift.

But as we have seen with Roy Keane and countless many others, it's only worth an intro.

If you act like a knob (Keane) or start to phone it in because you believe the job is beneath you (O'Leary) players soon get wise to that. It doesn't matter then what you achieved in your own playing career.

That's why there's a reasonable argument to go with a manager who had an undistinguished playing career. They have innovated as managers because they've had to. And once you start thinking that way, you're always looking to stay ahead of the curve. As opposed to a Strachan/ O'Neill/ Pardew deadhead.

In fairness to Terry, he did seem genuinely popular around the place and was cited by many players as a good example re training and preparation. If he is involved at all, I can't see him giving it any less than 100 per cent.

But the job being what it is is still too big for a pair of novices.

Oh come on.  On what grounds do you base your claim that it will only be an initial uplift?

Also, is having a distinguished playing career another reason to lump against Henry, along with no experience?  How about his skin colour?  I haven't seen that mentioned yet.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2390 on: October 08, 2018, 01:31:27 AM »
Faria can come back when he's won that lot rather just making the tea for the bloke that did  :P

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2391 on: October 08, 2018, 01:53:18 AM »
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Henry/Terry excites me - experience or not, they were both part of football dynasties and at the very top of the game - feel it would really motivate and inspire the team.

It might give an initial uplift.

But as we have seen with Roy Keane and countless many others, it's only worth an intro.

If you act like a knob (Keane) or start to phone it in because you believe the job is beneath you (O'Leary) players soon get wise to that. It doesn't matter then what you achieved in your own playing career.

That's why there's a reasonable argument to go with a manager who had an undistinguished playing career. They have innovated as managers because they've had to. And once you start thinking that way, you're always looking to stay ahead of the curve. As opposed to a Strachan/ O'Neill/ Pardew deadhead.

In fairness to Terry, he did seem genuinely popular around the place and was cited by many players as a good example re training and preparation. If he is involved at all, I can't see him giving it any less than 100 per cent.

But the job being what it is is still too big for a pair of novices.

Oh come on.  On what grounds do you base your claim that it will only be an initial uplift?

Also, is having a distinguished playing career another reason to lump against Henry, along with no experience?  How about his skin colour?  I haven't seen that mentioned yet.

U wot bab?

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2392 on: October 08, 2018, 03:27:58 AM »
Faria at 9-1 is tempting.

I'm sure the Henry/Terry rumour has come from one paper, Faria/Terry seems more likely.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2393 on: October 08, 2018, 06:21:52 AM »
Rodgers statement could mean that he knows Villa have someone else for the job.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2394 on: October 08, 2018, 06:49:42 AM »
The football would be boring under Faria.

I could live with boring..

Porto (2002–2004)

    2002–03 Primeira Liga
    2002–03 Ta็a de Portugal
    2002–03 UEFA Cup
    2003 Superta็a Cโndido de Oliveira
    2003–04 Primeira Liga
    2003–04 UEFA Champions League

Chelsea (2004–2007)

    2004–05 FA Premier League
    2004–05 League Cup
    2005 FA Community Shield
    2005–06 FA Premier League
    2006–07 League Cup
    2006–07 FA Cup

Internazionale (2008–2010)

    2008 Supercoppa Italiana
    2008–09 Serie A
    2009–10 Serie A
    2009–10 Coppa Italia
    2009–10 UEFA Champions League

Real Madrid (2010–2013)

    2010–11 Copa del Rey
    2011–12 La Liga
    2012 Supercopa de Espa๑a

Chelsea (2013–2015)

    2014–15 League Cup
    2014–15 Premier League

Manchester United (2016– )

    2016 FA Community Shield
    2016–17 EFL Cup
    2016–17 UEFA Europa League

The Treble (League, Cup and European trophies)

    2002–03 with Porto: League, Cup and UEFA Cup
    2009–10 with Inter Milan: League, Cup and UEFA Champions League

So we need to appoint Jose Mourinho is what you're saying?

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2395 on: October 08, 2018, 06:50:45 AM »
Faria can come back when he's won that lot rather just making the tea for the bloke that did  :P

Boom.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2396 on: October 08, 2018, 07:08:17 AM »
"I'm the Celtic manager and I love it and have lots of challenges here," Rodgers told BBC Scotland.

Speaking after Sunday's 6-0 win over St Johnstone, he added: "There is always speculation.

"Villa is a top Premier League club in the Championship and I'm sure with their support base and resources they will try and get back there as quickly as they can."

However, speaking at his news conference subsequent to that interview, Rodgers said "you can't rule me out because I have never been asked".

Yet the BBC headline is ''Brendan Rodgers rules himself out of contention for the Aston Villa job''..... maybe i'm being thick but this sounds like the exact opposite to me.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2397 on: October 08, 2018, 07:29:40 AM »
It’s a no for Thierry Henry for me. He’s never managed before and whilst our star has fallen recently, I still think we are a big enough draw to enable us to be something more than a testing ground for a managers first step.

Further great players don’t necessarily make great managers. Leeds appointed Bielsa and we need to be thinking along those lines if we ever want to get our of this division.
« Last Edit: October 08, 2018, 08:34:06 AM by lovejoy »

Offline nigel

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2398 on: October 08, 2018, 07:39:03 AM »
Everything seems to point to a Henry/Terry partnership.
Between the pair of them they should be able to bring in a decent coaching set up, too.

I can't see JT being 'forced' on Henry, either.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2399 on: October 08, 2018, 07:42:34 AM »
Henry and Terry don't strike me as the kind of guys who are likely to get on very well.

 


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