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Offline footyskillz

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2220 on: October 07, 2018, 01:19:08 PM »
As much as it's super interesting and could prove unbelievable if it clicks there would be an even bigger probably up at almightiness levels of expectations for the rest of season.

That being 6-0 Barca style football victories and Grealish being some Messi/Hazard hybrid .

Exciting and seems plausible if you're the owner who wants big names and brands these 2 are premier league . The only trouble is we are championship and it's like this has to work just because the quality is ridiculously vastly superior.
There is no other club in football league these 2 as a partnership and especially Henry would be even talking too
However the circus that will go with it - not courted by these 2 -  more the media obsessions I imagine sky would give villa own channel sky sports villa.

The other thing is Aston villa football club will be rebranded to Henry's villa which will be dam annoying

I'm all for the big name and the genius that is Henry
The squad on whole has enough ability to outscore everyone and sounds like JT would be the defence focus.

Ironically JT will be the bridge for the players .


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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2221 on: October 07, 2018, 01:19:56 PM »
Have to say, nothing about the idea of this all-star player-manager supergroup fills me with any confidence at all.

Aye, same.

When the Henry link was first touted just over two months ago it was seen as a fanboy move.

Now it's exciting/ shows imagination etc.  Henry's coaching credentials haven't improved that much in two months. Even if we have had a dire start to the season.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2222 on: October 07, 2018, 01:20:38 PM »
Imagine ending up with Moyes after all this.

It would be typical Villa!

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2223 on: October 07, 2018, 01:21:34 PM »
It's fucking madness. We shouldn't be anyone's testing ground. We aren't some Mickey Mouse team like Fleetwood or Rangers.

We’re a Championship club in our third season and maybe our fourth. Right now we’re a long way behind a lot of clubs that we would traditionally look down on. Just look at some of the teams in the PL like Bournemouth, Burnley, Huddersfield, Wolves, Palace, West Ham etc etc. Times have changed. We need to accept that while we are still a high profile team outside of the Midlands we are somewhat of a non entity. Not entirely irrelevant but we’re threatening to become that way.

So the fact that two very high profile and outstanding players who have aspirations to be managers want to do it with us at this level isn’t something that I will be viewing as a negative. They will put people around them that have coached at a high level also.

We need a massive spark to get us going again. There are no guarantees that someone with experience will do the trick. We just fired someone with bags of it. So let’s see where this goes.

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« Reply #2224 on: October 07, 2018, 01:23:57 PM »
A lot of places are running with the Henry-Terry story the way they did with Henry back in summer. This time I hope they're right. I'd rather Dean Smith but this combo option would be my next choice. Anything to avoid more of the same at this point tbh.

Given his links to the club, I think Dean Smith will always be interested in the job.  If he doesn't get it this time (he would still be my choice after Rodgers and certainly over people who have never managed before), I think it will be a case of monitoring his progress and then who knows in the future.  If he carries on doing well at Brentford he will either take them up or will get a bigger job and we will all see how he does then. 

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2225 on: October 07, 2018, 01:24:44 PM »
Have to say, nothing about the idea of this all-star player-manager supergroup fills me with any confidence at all.

With Terry in essence would that not be the same role as he he last season, just now official?

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« Reply #2226 on: October 07, 2018, 01:26:15 PM »
Look where having  ‘experienced’ and ‘knowledgeable’ management has got us.
The time has come for a shake up and fresh thinking.

If we can stay in touch with the top 7 teams until Christmas, while the new people find their feet and the players get used to playing a system, then the second half of the season could be very interesting.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2227 on: October 07, 2018, 01:34:56 PM »
Have to say, nothing about the idea of this all-star player-manager supergroup fills me with any confidence at all.

With Terry in essence would that not be the same role as he he last season, just now official?

I think that’s a very good point. We tend to reinforce each other with our echo chamber here, usually without knowing if our hunches are true, through probably between us have a better grasp than most.

So yes if we are right the (Bruce attracted & appointed) Terry/Snodgrass professionalism and determination was what pulled us upwards by the scruff of the neck last season, and developed Jack, then, given that, Terry isn’t the risk as a coach, and does provide relevant recent experience/relationships to mitigate the risk of more unknown head coach/manager.

It always seems like the most important decision since we appointed Ron Saunders, but it’s interesting to imagine looking back on what happened in the pivotal days of October 2018.

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« Reply #2228 on: October 07, 2018, 01:45:02 PM »
The one aspect of an Henry/Terry double act that interests me is that Terry will probably be playing: and thus we can make a start at sorting our shithouse defense out.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2229 on: October 07, 2018, 01:45:20 PM »
Bruce is an experienced manager and just see where that has got us....possibly the worst defensive unit I have ever seen at villa park.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2230 on: October 07, 2018, 01:46:37 PM »
The good thing for me is that it seems to have come down to Rodgers or Henry, both of whom are likely to have us playing the sort of football we have long wanted us too. As such, I am quite content for either to get it, (I voted Rodgers on day 1 but would be swayed a little more to Henry with Terry being involved) and think both will do well this season with the squad we have. Biggest worry is that back 4.

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« Reply #2231 on: October 07, 2018, 01:58:36 PM »
Bruce is an experienced manager and just see where that has got us....possibly the worst defensive unit I have ever seen at villa park.

So we rule out all experienced managers?

This is a huge gamble if it happens. I would have preferred if he came in with someone in as DOF.

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« Reply #2232 on: October 07, 2018, 02:00:18 PM »
Henry was a hugely talented & inteligent footballer. Terry a motivated leader.

I wanted Bruce & look where that got us.

Like almost everything in life there are no guarantees. But I'd be more confident in these two than the other names being banded about. I'd expect the players to run through brick walls for Terry and a style od football that moves us into the 21st century.

What I hope, is that the fans realise this wont change overnight.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2233 on: October 07, 2018, 02:02:22 PM »
Bruce is an experienced manager and just see where that has got us....possibly the worst defensive unit I have ever seen at villa park.

So we rule out all experienced managers?

This is a huge gamble if it happens. I would have preferred if he came in with someone in as DOF.

nobody has suggested ruling out anyone with experience but it is being suggested (and I would agree with this bit) that the "experience as a former coach or manager" factor is a bit overrated. It's useful but as many former experienced coaches and managers have demonstrated with us, it's counted for very little. In fact it could even be argued that Tim Sherwood had the most success of any of our recent managers even if like many others it ultimately went down in flames.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2234 on: October 07, 2018, 02:02:52 PM »
From what I've read, whoever comes in as Manager, Terry is lined up to be Assistant/First team Coach.

 


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