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Offline Ads

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2145 on: October 07, 2018, 09:14:46 AM »
If it's him I'll be behind him 100%.

I'd like to see us play at a higher tempo and with an attacking structure. Bit more balance to the side and keep that defence shielded with territory up the other end.

Yesterday we were so unbalanced in midfield and clueless.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2146 on: October 07, 2018, 09:17:57 AM »
The big worry for me is how Henry or anybody else for that matter gets a tune out of that defence until January.  Yes organisation in midfield will help, but even in the context of recent squads, that combination of defenders and goalkeepers is astonishingly bad.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2147 on: October 07, 2018, 09:26:24 AM »
freebies and or trying to get loans cancelled?

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2148 on: October 07, 2018, 09:31:47 AM »
If it's him I'll be behind him 100%.

I'd like to see us play at a higher tempo and with an attacking structure. Bit more balance to the side and keep that defence shielded with territory up the other end.

Yesterday we were so unbalanced in midfield and clueless.

Yes, I know you will.

Part of the Bruce problem for me (a large part) was that he was happy to concede possession.  My feeling is that if you don't have possession, you are not going to score.  Couple that with the amount of time that the ball is out of play, it is hardly surprising that we never looked convincing or had answers when we went behind.  Bruce's style ensured too many draws, which ultimately meant the difference between autos and play offs.

We have the players who can play at a much higher tempo and we can certainly claim territory further up the field.

Yesterday was painful and shows why change is needed.  Bruce may not have been in charge but it was a Bruce team who were set up and instructed to play the Bruce way.  I do not blame KM for this, I'd probably have done the same if I was just covering for one game.  It has to be dropped completely and I'm sure that someone like Henry will do exactly that.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2149 on: October 07, 2018, 09:34:00 AM »
The big worry for me is how Henry or anybody else for that matter gets a tune out of that defence until January.  Yes organisation in midfield will help, but even in the context of recent squads, that combination of defenders and goalkeepers is astonishingly bad.

It's 14 games and we just have to get on with it.

Play offs is probably a realistic target from here and there will be enough games left after January to achieve that goal.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2150 on: October 07, 2018, 09:35:17 AM »
The big worry for me is how Henry or anybody else for that matter gets a tune out of that defence until January.  Yes organisation in midfield will help, but even in the context of recent squads, that combination of defenders and goalkeepers is astonishingly bad.

Far from ideal but even Collins would have helped against their big hoofball yesterday.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2151 on: October 07, 2018, 09:38:35 AM »
The big worry for me is how Henry or anybody else for that matter gets a tune out of that defence until January.  Yes organisation in midfield will help, but even in the context of recent squads, that combination of defenders and goalkeepers is astonishingly bad.

Far from ideal but even Collins would have helped against their big hoofball yesterday.


Fucking Joan Collins will do at the moment. Bruce letting Mitchell Clark go an excel at Port Vale was another massive error of judgement.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2152 on: October 07, 2018, 09:45:10 AM »
My concern over Henry is that he is unlikely to build something. It could either be a disaster or if brilliant he won't be around for long. We need a structure set up with an identity. Looking at Wolves with more than a hint of jealousy.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2153 on: October 07, 2018, 10:05:30 AM »
The big worry for me is how Henry or anybody else for that matter gets a tune out of that defence until January.  Yes organisation in midfield will help, but even in the context of recent squads, that combination of defenders and goalkeepers is astonishingly bad.

Darren Fucking Moore is doing a mighty fine job with not much more than us at Albion. I’d go sign Robert Huth tomorrow if need be. And maybe one of these blokes will be high profile enough to tempt Terry back. Who knows, and maybe very naively, I have faith in his turning it around through one of these new managers. And for the time being just go and outscore our opponents wherever possible until Jan.

Offline VinnieChase84

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2154 on: October 07, 2018, 10:08:46 AM »
Henry will be a risk but one I feel worth taking. He won’t accept failure and certainly doesn’t want a bad managerial stint having an impact on his image. He’s a winner, learnt under the best and will certainly want his style ‘whatever that be’ imprint in the team.

If we can get in the play offs, I will be a dam site more confident having an attack minded manager at the helm instead of another whose priority is to not lose first and foremost.

I would imagine he knows who he wants as coaches around him, this will be key. I’ve seen Grimandi and Bould mentioned. Add this to the fact Henry will coach himself on the training field. We’ve had for two years hardly any training ground coaching from our manager and it’s been totally left to clemence, Agnew, calderwood.

Be a refreshing change to actually have the gaffer making an impact on the training field


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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2155 on: October 07, 2018, 10:10:14 AM »
My concern over Henry is that he is unlikely to build something. It could either be a disaster or if brilliant he won't be around for long. We need a structure set up with an identity. Looking at Wolves with more than a hint of jealousy.

If he's successful he'll be here for as long as Nuno sticks around Wolverhampton.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2156 on: October 07, 2018, 10:10:37 AM »
It won’t be tactics or football acumen that will be the challenge facing Henry, it will be about dealing with the players and man management where experience and character really counts.
The modern player is more likely to respond to Henry than a get your boots on type.
So if it is a choice between Allardyce or Henry it’s Henry for me and I believe we can expect an announcement very soon.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2157 on: October 07, 2018, 10:14:12 AM »
My concern over Henry is that he is unlikely to build something. It could either be a disaster or if brilliant he won't be around for long. We need a structure set up with an identity. Looking at Wolves with more than a hint of jealousy.

If he does brilliantly we’ll be back in the Premier a league with a lot of money to burn, I’ll take that.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2158 on: October 07, 2018, 10:25:13 AM »
With managers in the Bruce, Moyes Alardyce box you know exactly what your going to get, some can live with that some don't want that but you do know what to expect
Bruce came and did what he's always done with varying levels of succes throughout his career,
I never want that type of manager but there are plenty who think they are good safe options that can do a job and that's fair enough

with managers like Smith, Dyce, Howe, fella's at Huddersfield, Fulham, Sheff Utd they more early in there management or have found succes with one club, they could go on to be great managers they could develop and become top men at the biggest clubs but we won't know until they take the next step

with managers like Henry, Lampard, Terry, Gerard, Faria  no one can possibly know what they will be like long term,
you listen to them see what they have to say and make a judgement,
we can't sit them down and listen to their vision of football and how they like it to be played but the Villa people can,
so if we go with a newby all we can do is hope they are more Guardiola than Neville

Im just using the names above as examples and not all managers who we can tempt,
I'd be happy to take a punt on the type of manager in group 2 or 3

just to go to a match with a bit of hope and expectation of maybe seeing a bit if entertainment would be a good start

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2159 on: October 07, 2018, 10:38:01 AM »
Wasn't Allardyce something of a trailblazer, in that he was a very early proponent, in this country at least, of analytics and an holistic approach to coaching?

Shame then that his heroes appeared to be Charles Hughes and Don Howe.

 


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