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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2100 on: October 06, 2018, 11:31:40 PM »
Rodgers....great in a one team league.
Strange how as soon as there is some decent competition in that league he is under massive pressure.

Not for me thanks.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2101 on: October 06, 2018, 11:33:02 PM »
https://twitter.com/JPercyTelegraph/status/1048687739242237952

"Thierry Henry emerges as strong contender to become Aston Villa manager after initial talks with the club #avfc https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/10/06/thierry-henry-early-favourite-become-aston-villa-manager-initial/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_tw via @telefootball"

Interesting there about the technical director.

Suggests Henry -if he does go for the job- won't be under Wenger-style figure he already knows.

Personally, I'd go all out for Rodgers if there was any possibility there at all.

-Progressive football
-big club experience
-gained promotion previously

He also didn't have much of a career as a player, which seems to be a prerequisite for any half decent manager. The rest seem to feel the game owes them a living.

Great point.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2102 on: October 06, 2018, 11:42:05 PM »
When Henry was heavily linked with Bordeaux, it was thought he wanted Giles Grimandi as his assistant, who was at least a defender.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2103 on: October 06, 2018, 11:45:31 PM »
Rodgers....great in a one team league.
Strange how as soon as there is some decent competition in that league he is under massive pressure.

Not for me thanks.

And how about getting Swansea up for the first time in decades and making a pretty average Liverpool side title contenders as recently as four years ago?

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2104 on: October 07, 2018, 12:06:18 AM »
Rodgers....great in a one team league.
Strange how as soon as there is some decent competition in that league he is under massive pressure.

Not for me thanks.

And how about getting Swansea up for the first time in decades..

Most of the preparation had been made by Jackett, Martinez and to a lesser extent by Sousa. Rodgers inherited a very good footballing side. Here he'd inherit a good squad but a Steve Bruce footballing side.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2105 on: October 07, 2018, 12:11:09 AM »
He inherited a side that played good football, but the general consensus was it was a fair way short of Premier League quality.

He kept them up - fairly comfortably in the end.  Which is at odds with an Allthepies/Bruce/McLeish approach that insists on scratching out the nine or ten wins needed to secure safety.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2106 on: October 07, 2018, 12:29:35 AM »
I wish we could pretend to have an average side while having Sterling, Suarez, Gerrard, Coutinho, Skrtel, Sturridge, Kolo and so on in the squad.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2107 on: October 07, 2018, 12:32:19 AM »
We’ve not had a manager here longer than the eight year spell of Ron Saunders since Queen Elizabeth’s reign. We haven’t won a trophy in 22 years. Give a younger manager the chance to build a legacy here. My preference is someone like a Dean Smith who won’t be using us as a stepping stone. Give him a chance - He can’t be any worse than the last ten we’ve had as he can’t win less than a sum total of nothing.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2108 on: October 07, 2018, 12:39:23 AM »
I'd prefer someone that looks at us as a stepping stone, certainly over seeing us as the best they'll ever do, even when we're in division 2. That will make them desperate to succeed otherwise they know there's no chance of ending up were they want.

SGT used us as a stepping stone to the England job. A job he'd never have got if he'd kept us in division 2 for a few years or had us as perennial top flight strugglers.

It's being the big pay cheque and having player/managers not desperate to reach the highest level that is part of the reason we've been shit for so long imo.
« Last Edit: October 07, 2018, 12:41:30 AM by PeterWithesShin »

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2109 on: October 07, 2018, 12:41:45 AM »
One thing I will say about a novice manager. The last time we had one is the last time we looked a good side, however brief it was.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2110 on: October 07, 2018, 12:44:25 AM »
One thing I will say about a novice manager. The last time we had one is the last time we looked a good side, however brief it was.

Indeed, and it’s far from fool proof, but at least they’re unlikely to be weighed down by tired ideas.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2111 on: October 07, 2018, 12:45:04 AM »
I wish we could pretend to have an average side while having Sterling, Suarez, Gerrard, Coutinho, Skrtel, Sturridge, Kolo and so on in the squad.

Gerrard and Toure were more hindrance than help at that point.  And that's before you even consider the handicap of having the likes of Mingolet, Johnson and Cissokho. Good attacking options, sure. But they weren't being tipped by many at the start of 13/14 as title contenders.


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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2112 on: October 07, 2018, 12:46:38 AM »
On the novice front let's just say for arguments sake it's Appleyard. You know he would want to end up as Chelsea manager, so we're a stepping stone. But then think of what he'd have to achieve here to ever have a realistic chance of that job. He may of course be an awful manager, but you'd know he wouldn't just coast along enjoying the Villa wage.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2113 on: October 07, 2018, 01:03:40 AM »
https://twitter.com/JPercyTelegraph/status/1048687739242237952

"Thierry Henry emerges as strong contender to become Aston Villa manager after initial talks with the club #avfc https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/10/06/thierry-henry-early-favourite-become-aston-villa-manager-initial/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_tw via @telefootball"

Interesting there about the technical director.

Suggests Henry -if he does go for the job- won't be under Wenger-style figure he already knows.

Personally, I'd go all out for Rodgers if there was any possibility there at all.

-Progressive football
-big club experience
-gained promotion previously

He also didn't have much of a career as a player, which seems to be a prerequisite for any half decent manager. The rest seem to feel the game owes them a living.

Great point.

Like, Clough, Fergie, Mourinho and Wenger

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #2114 on: October 07, 2018, 01:22:09 AM »
I wish we could pretend to have an average side while having Sterling, Suarez, Gerrard, Coutinho, Skrtel, Sturridge, Kolo and so on in the squad.

Gerrard and Toure were more hindrance than help at that point.  And that's before you even consider the handicap of having the likes of Mingolet, Johnson and Cissokho. Good attacking options, sure. But they weren't being tipped by many at the start of 13/14 as title contenders.


Yeah whoever decided Mignolet was worth 9 or 10 million is probably one to swerve.

 


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