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Offline Drummond

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #1305 on: October 04, 2018, 12:15:06 PM »
Wilder from Sheffield United?

I was talking to the owner of Northampton Town a few weeks ago, and he said everything started to go for wrong for them when they lost Wilder.  A brilliant manager in his opinion.

Yep, heard the same about his time there but also he's doing very well now too. Joint top and plays up-tempo football. He's organised and ensures everyone knows what they're doing. You just have to look at how they dismantled us for an example.

Not sure if we'd be too big a step-up but he does rub folk the wrong way sometimes as he's strong-willed.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #1306 on: October 04, 2018, 12:20:49 PM »
The fact that KMac is still here, despite being here throughout all the shite, despite the bullying allegations, despite to be honest not having a great record of producing U23s that make it to the first team, concerns me somewhat.  It's a bit harsh, but after all the decontamination since we got relegated it's like there is still a barrel of old dysfunctional Villa toxic waste lying around that people forgot about.  It doesn't remove the nagging feeling I have that there is still something fundamentally wrong at the club that hasn't been exorcised and that a new manager/head coach may not be able to bring about the sea-change we all hope for.

Some valid points here.
Recent U23s might not have made it into our first team,mainly due to Bruce's team selections but a previous generation sees Hogg(Huddersfield),Clark (Newcastle),Bannon (Wed),Robinson and Johnson (Preston),Baker and Weimann (Bristol) and injury ravaged Gardner (Blues).
Not an illustrious list but handy for the Championship.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #1307 on: October 04, 2018, 12:32:03 PM »
The fact that KMac is still here, despite being here throughout all the shite, despite the bullying allegations, despite to be honest not having a great record of producing U23s that make it to the first team, concerns me somewhat.  It's a bit harsh, but after all the decontamination since we got relegated it's like there is still a barrel of old dysfunctional Villa toxic waste lying around that people forgot about.  It doesn't remove the nagging feeling I have that there is still something fundamentally wrong at the club that hasn't been exorcised and that a new manager/head coach may not be able to bring about the sea-change we all hope for.

Well yes and there are always some people at a football club who you expect would survive if a nuclear bomb was dropped on it, but I think most reports from the past couple of seasons have suggested that the U23 side have been very promising.  The problem was that under Bruce, there didn't really seem a clear pathway to integrate younger players into the first team.  He even shamelessly threw some of them under the bus after the Yeovil game this season just to make a point. 

Developing a clear pathway from youth to U23 to first team should be a key target of the new director of football and we will hopefully be bringing in a manager who believes in that.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #1308 on: October 04, 2018, 12:41:09 PM »
And I forgot Grealish !
If the first team had been managed as well as the Academy,we'd be alright.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #1309 on: October 04, 2018, 12:56:59 PM »
So who do people think might get the job? I checked an odds website this morning (last night in UK) dean smith was 7/4, fat Sam next favourite,then I think Henry was 5/1, Martinez 7/1followed by the usual procession.

Had to put up with my pisstaking qpr mate sending me pics of various managers on the phone including fat Sam, Moyes, pardew and I actually laughed out loud when I saw the obligatory harry redknapp in his Range Rover ‘pulling into villa park’!

Terry seems to be being backed by some punters too. Wouldn’t be a bad shout, but can’t see it happening.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #1310 on: October 04, 2018, 01:02:28 PM »
Just checking who Appleyard is or is it meant to be Michael Appleton?

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #1311 on: October 04, 2018, 01:03:01 PM »
Just checking who Appleyard is or is it meant to be Michael Appleton?

John Terry.  I forget why.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #1312 on: October 04, 2018, 01:10:40 PM »
Of those in the poll, my votes would be 1. Smith 2. Rodgers 3. Ranieri (how mental would that be?)

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #1313 on: October 04, 2018, 01:12:59 PM »
So who do people think might get the job? I checked an odds website this morning (last night in UK) dean smith was 7/4, fat Sam next favourite,then I think Henry was 5/1, Martinez 7/1followed by the usual procession.

Had to put up with my pisstaking qpr mate sending me pics of various managers on the phone including fat Sam, Moyes, pardew and I actually laughed out loud when I saw the obligatory harry redknapp in his Range Rover ‘pulling into villa park’!

Terry seems to be being backed by some punters too. Wouldn’t be a bad shout, but can’t see it happening.

I think there are four categories forming:

Experienced and currently in jobs, but might be tough to prise away - Fonseca, Rodgers, Benitez

Not as experienced and currently in a job but might not be as difficult to prise away - Smith, Wilder

Rookies - Terry, Henry, Arteta

Good ol' boys waiting for the next gravy train to roll into town - Allardyce, Moyes, Redknapp

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #1314 on: October 04, 2018, 01:17:13 PM »
Has anyone suggested the Terry Henry combo yet ? Sorry !

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #1315 on: October 04, 2018, 01:18:48 PM »
Interesting split.

Fonseca, Wilder, Henry and Allardyce would be my picks from each category.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #1316 on: October 04, 2018, 01:22:16 PM »
Fonseca has seemingly been ruled out by his own choice, not a shock really.

Still think Rodgers would be the best bet, a decent offer could get him I am sure.

The claret and blue specs in me keep secretly hoping Smith takes it, and makes us great. The dream of a Villa man leading us to promotion playing good football is a really enticing prospect. My concern is the infrastructure Brentford have built means he is a cog in a bigger system though.

I think we will end up with Henry though. Then it will come down to who his number 2 is, and who the sporting director is to make it work. I think I would sooner have Arteta though if going for an unproven.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #1317 on: October 04, 2018, 01:28:51 PM »
I can't see Artera leaving Man City this season so of the rookies I'd go for Henry - he's also available right now.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #1318 on: October 04, 2018, 01:32:56 PM »
I can't see Artera leaving Man City this season so of the rookies I'd go for Henry - he's also available right now.

I think he's assistant manager to Martinez at the moment. He replaced Graeme Jones when he left to join Smethwick.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #1319 on: October 04, 2018, 01:37:50 PM »
I think the main barrier to us getting managers currently employed would be compensation. For example, what would it take to prise smith, and presumably his staff, from Brentford, a club realistically in with a shout of getting into the money league next season? I’ve no idea, but it wouldn’t happen cheaply is my guess and aren’t we still bound by ffp, even hen it comes to non-playing staff? I don’t know.

 


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