Next manager?

[geolex]

Its interesting how many people moan about Bruce being cautious  and negative then but think that Smith ( who plays attractive passing type of football) will be overwhelmed by the job  then follow up with not wanting Allardyce etc( neither do).   
we got to get this we are a big club anyone would want to manage us crap out of our heads, we are a championship club  its not a blip we are into our 3rd season  and if changes aren't made a 4th will soon follow.
I have no idea who will replace Bruce but for god sake lets go for someone hungry passionate  not the same old merry go round

[Dante Lavelli]

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Modern progressive coach
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Big club experience preferably as manager
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Prepared to come to second tier club

I reckon if you applied that filter you'd have a pretty small field. I can't immediately think of a single candidate tbh

Japp Stam ticks boxes .
What do you think ?

I am nervous about any Ferguson prodigy.  Just a hunch but I think they often try and replicate his arms length style where he combined the DoF and Coach role.  I think that system is now defunct and, due to the expanding number of responsibilities, the roles must be split.

[Dante Lavelli]

Its interesting how many people moan about Bruce being cautious  and negative then but think that Smith ( who plays attractive passing type of football) will be overwhelmed by the job  then follow up with not wanting Allardyce etc( neither do).   
we got to get this we are a big club anyone would want to manage us crap out of our heads, we are a championship club  its not a blip we are into our 3rd season  and if changes aren't made a 4th will soon follow.
I have no idea who will replace Bruce but for god sake lets go for someone hungry passionate  not the same old merry go round

My problem with Smith is that he would have to go from having a narrow band of responsibilities at a small club, to a wide band of responsibilities at a big club. 

If we had the structure in place and all he had to do was coach a dictated style of play then he would be a good option, whereas he'd be joining a club that is a footballing vacuum.

[geolex]

i wasn't saying Smith is answer just pointing  that people say they don't want a certain type of manager   then contradict themselves when  the alternative is offered

[Ads]

Concerning that one of the names linked with the sporting director post left Valencia because, according to a club source, he bought a load of fucking shit players. Brilliant. Only Villa.

Rumours of Jesus Garcia have been dismissed

[Damo70]

Concerning that one of the names linked with the sporting director post left Valencia because, according to a club source, he bought a load of fucking shit players. Brilliant. Only Villa.

Rumours of Jesus Garcia have been dismissed

Jesus Christ might be a shout. But I believe he is on 'gardening leave' until Easter Sunday.

[QuintonVilla]

Reading played some of the most boring football in the league under Jaap Stam. It was possession based but they didn't go anywhere with it and would pass the ball around at the back for the sake of it. Would become very tiresome when you're not winning, just ask the Reading fans who soon got fed up of it.

[Matt Collins]

Jaap Stam?

Jesus no

[Matt Collins]

Wenger/Henry would fit that remit as well.

As a leftfield choice I think Paul Ince has unfinished business in football management & would be a great appointment.

You're not fucking serious right?

[ChicagoLion]

Wenger/Henry would fit that remit as well.

As a leftfield choice I think Paul Ince has unfinished business in football management & would be a great appointment.

You're not fucking serious right?

Chris Hutchins would jump at the chance.

[Gregorys Boy]

One way or the other I doubt Bruce will be going anywhere until the summer.  January-March at the earliest.  What'll help his case is the fact we are still currently in touch with the leading pack, and that he got us to the play-offs last season.  When the change does come (I'm fairly confident we won't get promoted sadly), I think we should go for the complete opposite.  As in a young, hungry manager, with an attractive style of football, but with more than one way to play.  Someone who can build something over a longer period time. 

[achilles]

If we don't get rid of Bruce by the end of the international break then I think we can safely say the season is over and we may as well leave him in the job till the season finishes.

I don't have a problem with Allardyce till the end of the season if we want promotion, if not may as well stick with Bruce as he won't get us promoted!

[Brassneck]

Seeing the broad spectrum of suggestions on this thread highlights just what a thankless task appointing a new manager is.  Whoever gets the job will be welcomed by some and faced with indifference/disappointment by others.

Personally, I am past caring and have been for some time.  My attitude has been that anyone is better than Bruce and I would have happily taken Henry in the Summer as I doubt very much whether we'd be any worse than we are now, position wise and the football would have been more bareable.  Others disagree but if we are going to be mid table, I would at least prefer watching something that resembled a plan.  We are no further forward with Bruce today than we were on the day he walked through the door.

I always refer back to the appointment of Ron Saunders and how underwhelmed I felt after all of the Brian Clough speculation.  With this in mind, I'm prepared to give any new manager a chance, regardless of his "standing" in managerial circles.

[sickbeggar]

To be honest i wrote the season off as soon as it became obvious that the new owners were backing Bruce although even i'm surprised at how far backwards we've gone. Seems Bruce stumbled on some sort of vaguely winning formula by chance last season, and now many of those players are gone he's stumbling around trying to find a new one. The big fear for me is the new owners don't have much more of a clue than Dr Tony and we get a kneejerk appointment who's handed the same short-term "Promotion or bust" masterplan instead of trying to build a promotion side. With the loans going back and players out of contract, our squad is going to look threadbare in the extreme next summer if we don't go up. With FFP can we replace 9 players?

[tomd2103]

Seeing the broad spectrum of suggestions on this thread highlights just what a thankless task appointing a new manager is.  Whoever gets the job will be welcomed by some and faced with indifference/disappointment by others.

Personally, I am past caring and have been for some time.  My attitude has been that anyone is better than Bruce and I would have happily taken Henry in the Summer as I doubt very much whether we'd be any worse than we are now, position wise and the football would have been more bareable.  Others disagree but if we are going to be mid table, I would at least prefer watching something that resembled a plan.  We are no further forward with Bruce today than we were on the day he walked through the door.

I always refer back to the appointment of Ron Saunders and how underwhelmed I felt after all of the Brian Clough speculation.  With this in mind, I'm prepared to give any new manager a chance, regardless of his "standing" in managerial circles.

It's why there has to be some kind of direction and vision put in place by those running the club.  They need to put a plan in place of where they want to be in the short, medium and long term and bring in a manager who fits their plans. 

Say for example that the plan is to try and galvanise the current squad, get up this season no matter the style of football and then stay in the top division for the next season.  You would then start to make a shortlist of suitable candidates who have a track record of going in to clubs and making a short term impact.  If the plan is to restructure the team and playing style completely, then whoever comes in is going to need some time and there might be an acceptance that promotion might not happen this season.  If they were looking for someone to come in and do that kind of job, then the list of candidates would have a different look to the one above.