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Offline robleflaneur

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #810 on: September 30, 2018, 10:27:24 PM »
I don't care whether he's a Villa fan or not. I care about his ability to cope with the job and I don't think he could.

also a big worry for me. i think we need someone who's already managed a club with the same expectation levels as ours

i do think it's a huge weight on anyone's shoulders and you need to be a special sort of person to be able to handle it

I think he's a good manager and would get the team playing well and winning lots of games.    Are we saying that we wouldn't like Howe from Bournemouth either then?
The need for a boss who has managed a similar club to us means a choice of Big Sam or Rodgers.I can't see Rafa jumping ship  just yet or coming to us.
Otherwise,it's the tried and failed: Pardew,Moyes ,Redknapp etc.
Tactics Tim managed Spurs ,so fulfilled the required mentality.Bruce with Sunderland.
And it does mean dismissing the likes of Howe,Wagner,Cook and Smith who have only managed smaller clubs and probably quite a few promising foreign coaches as well as novices like Henry and Terry.
I do despair at  the example of Graham Turner being trotted out. Was it he or more likely Doug who sold our best players,Cowans,Gibson and Rideout?


Offline Chris Jameson

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #811 on: September 30, 2018, 10:40:53 PM »
Howe would always be my choice. Chance to manage a potential top 4 side and he's not gonna get that chance from any of them in the Premiership. Won't come mid-season though, and would take a lot persuading to in the summer

Sorry, who is the potential top 4 side?!  Us?!

He doesn’t state which league, we’re nearer the top 4 of the third division than the Premier League.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #812 on: September 30, 2018, 10:42:50 PM »
Eddie Howe is not going to resign and come to a championship club

He just isn't

Lucky you weren't in charge of choosing the new manager in 1987.

The person that was wanted Dave Bassett.

Offline Matt Collins

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #813 on: October 01, 2018, 06:37:12 AM »
Modern progressive coach
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Big club experience preferably as manager
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Prepared to come to second tier club

I reckon if you applied that filter you'd have a pretty small field. I can't immediately think of a single candidate tbh

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #814 on: October 01, 2018, 07:17:04 AM »
Eddie Howe is not going to resign and come to a championship club

He just isn't

Lucky you weren't in charge of choosing the new manager in 1987.

The person that was wanted Dave Bassett.

Plus it's not 1987 anymore.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #815 on: October 01, 2018, 07:50:08 AM »
Not sure how relevant or realistic "big club experience" is. First, there aren't that many clubs that have ambitions that match villa's. Maybe half a dozen or so in england. Stands to reason there's few managers available with that experience, even fewer who've been a success, and practically none that meet those 2 requirements and would take a job in the championship.

Even if you did find one, there's the risk they assume the expectations are lower than they are. You don't get that with a dean smith type manager. They know they'll not get another opportunity like the one they're being offered. They'll be fully aware that they'll be expected to do well straight away.

Offline Marlon From Bearwood

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #816 on: October 01, 2018, 07:53:31 AM »
Eddie Howe is not going to resign and come to a championship club

He just isn't

Lucky you weren't in charge of choosing the new manager in 1987.

Convincing a manager to walk out on a club to drop down a division during pre season is one thing.

Doing it during a season is another matter entirely.


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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #817 on: October 01, 2018, 07:58:08 AM »
You may be right. I wish we had got bought out a few weeks earlier. I'm convinced Bruce wouldn't be here if that was the case.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #818 on: October 01, 2018, 09:04:42 AM »
From the PL I think the likes of Howe, Dyche etc are just pure fantasy.  I highly doubt they'd drop a league in the summer let alone mid season.  There may be a very slim chance Rafa could be persuaded as he feels stitched up by Ashly.  Wagner may be gettable as he could be close to the sack at Huddersfield, but whilst he looked attractive a couple of seasons ago he has reverted to the type of defensive football that would have this place in meltdown.

I also think FFP will play a part, so a cheaper manager from the lower leagues (eg Smith, Wilder etc) or someone out of work seems far more likely to me..

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #819 on: October 01, 2018, 09:21:33 AM »
Howe is in a dead-end. However well he does, he's never going to make Bournemouth into a Top4 side, so he can either hang around bucking the odds in the hope he gets offered the England job in a few years or he will need to move on because the job at a Liverpool, Man City, Chelsea etc.. is never going to be offered. That means realistically a downwards move to a club with more long-term potential  with owners and the income streams to challenge at least the likes of the best of the rest. We are one of those teams - still.  As i've said earlier, it would have to be sold to him as a long term project rather than a job, but however crap we are now, there is no doubt once in the premiership everything changes- we should be financially better able to compete than 60% of the PL clubs straight away. I'm sure Howe knows that so it all depends on if we can convince him we're the right fallen giant to take a chance on. Anyway, as others have said, he wouldn't come mid-season so pie in the sky really at the present time.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #820 on: October 01, 2018, 09:24:34 AM »
Howe is in a dead-end. However well he does, he's never going to make Bournemouth into a Top4 side, so he can either hang around bucking the odds in the hope he gets offered the England job in a few years or he will need to move on because the job at a Liverpool, Man City, Chelsea etc.. is never going to be offered. That means realistically a downwards move to a club with more long-term potential  with owners and the income streams to challenge at least the likes of the best of the rest. We are one of those teams - still.  As i've said earlier, it would have to be sold to him as a long term project rather than a job, but however crap we are now, there is no doubt once in the premiership everything changes- we should be financially better able to compete than 60% of the PL clubs straight away. I'm sure Howe knows that so it all depends on if we can convince him we're the right fallen giant to take a chance on. Anyway, as others have said, he wouldn't come mid-season so pie in the sky really at the present time.

Maybe if he hadn't had a crack a Burnley, he might be tempted to come to somewhere like us but I think he'll be at Bournemouth for a while yet. He seems settled there.

Offline sickbeggar

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #821 on: October 01, 2018, 09:38:45 AM »
Howe is in a dead-end. However well he does, he's never going to make Bournemouth into a Top4 side, so he can either hang around bucking the odds in the hope he gets offered the England job in a few years or he will need to move on because the job at a Liverpool, Man City, Chelsea etc.. is never going to be offered. That means realistically a downwards move to a club with more long-term potential  with owners and the income streams to challenge at least the likes of the best of the rest. We are one of those teams - still.  As i've said earlier, it would have to be sold to him as a long term project rather than a job, but however crap we are now, there is no doubt once in the premiership everything changes- we should be financially better able to compete than 60% of the PL clubs straight away. I'm sure Howe knows that so it all depends on if we can convince him we're the right fallen giant to take a chance on. Anyway, as others have said, he wouldn't come mid-season so pie in the sky really at the present time.

Maybe if he hadn't had a crack a Burnley, he might be tempted to come to somewhere like us but I think he'll be at Bournemouth for a while yet. He seems settled there.

Well with all due respect to Burnley and their history, we are not really comparable to them in the premiership. Dyche is in a similar position in fact - best he can hope for is buck the odds avoiding relegation long term or risk a step down or sideways

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #822 on: October 01, 2018, 09:55:12 AM »
Id take Raineri/Terry at this rate.

Get us up Claudio , use Terry to sort the dressing room out and the defence and then after a year in the prem , pass it on to Terry.

Wont cost us nothing , he has managed big clubs and experience and terry is the younger modern guy who gets respect from the players.

Please , just get thereabouts out of our club.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #823 on: October 01, 2018, 10:06:49 AM »
Raineri is not a bad shout to be honest.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #824 on: October 01, 2018, 10:08:47 AM »
Yep, forgot about him. I wouldn't be disappointed if he came in.

 


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