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Offline dicedlam

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #150 on: September 01, 2018, 08:27:14 PM »
My main worry with Rodgers is that he would consider himself bigger than the job.

That is a fair point. I reckon Henry would be the same.

As I have said previously, offer Howe the contract of his life and the funds to build what he wants and I'm sure he would take it.

Offline hilts_coolerking

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #151 on: September 01, 2018, 08:29:19 PM »
Correction: *because* of his record against us. Being Villa and beating the Villa is a real double whammy.
Quite.  And neither should have anything but the minutest bearing on our selection process, if that.

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« Reply #152 on: September 01, 2018, 08:29:52 PM »
My main worry with Rodgers is that he would consider himself bigger than the job.

That is a fair point. I reckon Henry would be the same.

As I have said previously, offer Howe the contract of his life and the funds to build what he wants and I'm sure he would take it.


yep, he's the guy for me. I just don't think he will walk out on Bournemouth before the summer.

Offline Damo70

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« Reply #153 on: September 01, 2018, 08:36:48 PM »
I get a bit worried when a manager has only really done it at one club. Are Howe and Dyche just the right people at the right club at the right time? For what it is worth I think that is the case with Howe but I do think Dyche can and will go on to bigger and better things. I am sure I heard that when he was overlooked for the Arsenal and Spurs jobs in 1986 SGT realised he would have to take a different route to a big club. Dyche probably realises the same and knows Manure, Citeh and Liverpool are unlikely to come calling. It is hard to see Burnley not slipping down or at best just treading water in the near future.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #154 on: September 01, 2018, 08:39:24 PM »
With Dean Smith I can't get over the concern that we're over-hyping him because he's one of us.

At the level we're at he's developed into a very good manager. I think Brentford will finish top 6 this season, can't say I'm that confident about us.

A year ago when we were having these debates I didn't think he was ready at all. I do now.

Edit: I'm not sure people thinking someone doing a very good championship job at Brentford and doing similar here is overhyping. Saying he'd get us up and then within 2-3 years have us finishing 6th in the premier league certainly would.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #155 on: September 01, 2018, 08:40:59 PM »
I'm all for Smith too. Miles better than the Moyes, Sam or other have-been's

Offline aj2k77

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« Reply #156 on: September 01, 2018, 08:50:00 PM »
Dean Smiths win ratio at tiny Brentford is higher than Bruce's at Sheff Utd, Huddersfield, Wigan, Palace, the Rags, Sunderland and Hull.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #157 on: September 01, 2018, 08:55:38 PM »
In fairness to spud face a lot of those were in the top flight. What's more telling is that Smith's win percentage at Brentford is only a few percent points below Bruce's with us. One of them has continually sold their best players, the other has brought in players that the other club could only ever dream of being able to afford.

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« Reply #158 on: September 01, 2018, 09:07:13 PM »
But crucially he has no experience of what his job would be here.  Dean Smith - manager of one of the richest clubs in the world?  I just don't see it.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #159 on: September 01, 2018, 09:09:42 PM »
Without wanting to sound mean, Dean Smith sounds to me like a Championship appointment rather than an appointment which aspires to getting to the Premier League.

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« Reply #160 on: September 01, 2018, 09:11:22 PM »
Also Dean Smith manages probably one of the most nicely set up clubs in terms of attacking ethos and unity. It’s ingrained from the top.  We are still pretty much a basket case.   

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« Reply #161 on: September 01, 2018, 09:14:34 PM »
I just don't think Smith would get the time. Bruce has only got this long because he had some sort of reputation.
 RDM got no time. An iffy 12months while he sorts the mess out - you'd get that at Brentford, not here.
« Last Edit: September 01, 2018, 09:16:49 PM by sickbeggar »

Offline XXVilla

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« Reply #162 on: September 01, 2018, 09:15:17 PM »
Without wanting to sound mean, Dean Smith sounds to me like a Championship appointment rather than an appointment which aspires to getting to the Premier League.

Wagner, Nuno, Rodgers, Howe and Dyche were championship appointments. I’ll have some of that.

Offline XXVilla

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« Reply #163 on: September 01, 2018, 09:16:27 PM »
I just don't think Smith would get the time. Bruce has only got this long because he had some sort of reputation.
 RDM got no time. An iffy 12months while he sorts the mess out - you'd get that at Brenford, not here.

RDM was a chancer who suckered Tony Xia.

Offline Chinchilla Bathhouse

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #164 on: September 01, 2018, 09:19:15 PM »
Without wanting to sound mean, Dean Smith sounds to me like a Championship appointment rather than an appointment which aspires to getting to the Premier League.

That's my view too. We have serious leadership and investment at the club now, they've just appointed a heavyweight CEO, I want a manager of a similar stature. Not one who might sort us out but one who will. We need to do what Wolves did and get someone who's too good for where we are now. We throw enough money at new players, it's time we threw whatever it costs in the direction of a manager who's the real deal.
« Last Edit: September 01, 2018, 09:20:51 PM by Chinchilla Bathhouse »

 


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