Next manager?

[paul_e]

Rafa looks like a man who wants out?

the Newcastle performance against Chelsea was a hundred times worse than anything Bruce has produced which is saying something
it was unforgivable and one of the most anti football things I’ve ever seen

of course he might have been making statement to his board and Mike Ashley

I wouldn’t want him for either of those reasons

Benitez is a better manager than Bruce but his 'tactics' around the transfer window is pretty similar, he generally spends most of the time making 'woe is me' style statements and trying to prove that he needs players and get the fans to blame the board if things go badly.  It's image protection first and foremost, see also Sherwood, T.

[Matt Collins]

God you'd take benitez in a heart beat but I can't see it happening. He'd definitely have better offers

[Ads]

The man who wanted to get rid of Alonso and replace him with Barry.

No thanks.

[Mister E]

I'd like Howe or Dyche. I don't think we'd get them.
Second choice would be Arteta or Rodgers.

Sadly, I dont think anything will happen till a CEO is appointed.

People suggesting Quique Flores are also into something, I’d say.

[Mister E]

I'd like Howe or Dyche. I don't think we'd get them.
Second choice would be Arteta or Rodgers.

Sadly, I dont think anything will happen till a CEO is appointed.

I don’t agree on the ‘sadly’. The relationship between manager and CEO is surely key and appointments need to be made top down to enable a way forward to be agreed.

Yup, agree. If we're going to do it, let's do it properly.

Agreed. My ‘sadly’ was to do with timing, not a poke at process.

[paul_e]

Yep, I said much the same a couple of months ago.  I'm firmly in the 'as soon as possible' camp when it comes to getting rid of Bruce but who comes next is a much bigger question and not one I want answered in a panic so as long as we're not completely adrift from the play off places Bruce can stay.  Doesn't mean I'm happy with him or how he's got the team playing though and definitely doesn't stop me criticising him when he proves yet again why he shouldn't have the job any more.

[villa `cross the mersey]

I am informed by a colleague at work (who is a Newcastle season ticket holder and travels to every home game from her home on Merseyside ), that the lovely Mr Ashley inserted a clause in Benitez' contract which states if he leaves to join another club he would be liable to personally pay a substantial compensation figure back to Ashley/the club- I am not sure of the legality of that and whether it sits under employment law or the law of contract . My colleague also intimates that Benitez is sulking after not getting in the players he wanted and that there is some disruption in the dressing room.

[sickbeggar]

Rafa would just be another guy at the end of his managerial career taking another paycheck. See also Nan's hair and the last 5 or more managers. Whoever we get, I want someone who's here for the long haul who buy's into the club and doesn't view us as a step-down or sideways.

[john e]

either way there doesn’t seem to be any shortage of possible options good or bad realistic or dreaming

makes a mockery of the people who say ‘who would replace him’ as if there is no one out there who could possibly do a better job than Bruce

 

[Clampy]

either way there doesn’t seem to be any shortage of possible options good or bad realistic or dreaming

makes a mockery of the people who say ‘who would replace him’ as if there is no one out there who could possibly do a better job than Bruce

 

I don't think anyone is suggesting there is no-one else who couldn't do a better job, maybe they are just asking who is out there who would come and be an ideal replacement. The thread title gives that away somewhat I think.

[garyshawsknee]

Got excited as I saw this subject being discussed and thought he'd been sacked over night. I think we could get Oscar Garcia, he did a good job at Brighton, got them playing some good football. I think Dean Smith would be a good shout too, I know Brentford have their own system of recruitment, but he's obviously a good coach.

[tomd2103]

either way there doesn’t seem to be any shortage of possible options good or bad realistic or dreaming

makes a mockery of the people who say ‘who would replace him’ as if there is no one out there who could possibly do a better job than Bruce

 

I don't think anyone is suggesting there is no-one else who couldn't do a better job, maybe they are just asking who is out there who would come and be an ideal replacement. The thread title gives that away somewhat I think.

I still don't think a change of manager can even be contemplated until a CEO and  perhaps a Director of Football are sorted.  People in those two positions will dictate the structure and direction of the club, so until that is sorted the only type of manager we could really go for would be another 'short term' appointment like Allardyce or Moyes.  After the defeat at Wembley last season, my initial feeling waiting for the train back to Birmingham was that I just want us to get out of this league as quickly possible and that hasn't changed too much, so I wouldn't be set against that type of appointment if it was felt someone could do a better job than Bruce is currently doing.     

[oldtimernow]

I am really conflicted do I want to see us in the PL acting as the drubbing boys for the "big 6" or do I want to see us playing enjoyable, watchable football where we are competitive and challenging?  I would like to see a more expansive manager than the must not lose, Bruce anti football approach

[mike]

I am really conflicted do I want to see us in the PL acting as the drubbing boys for the "big 6" or do I want to see us playing enjoyable, watchable football where we are competitive and challenging?  I would like to see a more expansive manager than the must not lose, Bruce anti football approach

How about back where we used to be, which is neither. We once had a midfield with the likes of Merson, Taylor, Barry, Young and Milner and a defence with the likes of Southgate, Ehiogu, Mellberg and Laursen. That's where I want us and it is eminently achievable over the next couple of seasons with the current ownership if they make the right decisions. We were better than Spurs not so long ago. We were shafted by Lerner (accepting the great stuff he did early on) plus MO'N and every decision we made thereafter shafted us further. We can and will get back to the dizzy heights of JG/early MO'N eras.

[chrisw1]

either way there doesn’t seem to be any shortage of possible options good or bad realistic or dreaming

makes a mockery of the people who say ‘who would replace him’ as if there is no one out there who could possibly do a better job than Bruce

 

I don't think it does at all.  Most of the suggestions are currently in a job and it's a massive leap of faith to assume any would jump ship just a few weeks into the season.