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Author Topic: John McGinn - signed (Captain 2022/23)  (Read 584099 times)

Offline Monty

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Re: John McGinn - signed (Captain 2022/23)
« Reply #4605 on: March 26, 2023, 03:47:30 PM »
Obviously a better player would be better, it's just that your criterion doesn't really indicate anything.

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Re: John McGinn - signed (Captain 2022/23)
« Reply #4606 on: March 26, 2023, 03:49:24 PM »
Yes, but some great players like Odergaard and Haaland, play for nations who are no better than Aston Villa reserves. International record is not the be all and end all. In fact, it's less important than consistently performing well for a half-decent club or better. 

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Re: John McGinn - signed (Captain 2022/23)
« Reply #4607 on: March 26, 2023, 03:49:47 PM »
Lets sign whoever it was that scored for Saudi Arabia against Argentina!

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Re: John McGinn - signed (Captain 2022/23)
« Reply #4608 on: March 26, 2023, 03:59:08 PM »
The likelihood though is player with a proven pedigree on the international stage would be a major asset to the team.
It's all well and good having a goal scorer for Scotland national team but would we not rather have a top player from Spain, Portugal or Germany?
I would.



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Re: John McGinn - signed (Captain 2022/23)
« Reply #4609 on: March 26, 2023, 04:07:03 PM »
But it's a meaningless category isn't it FV? Like, yes, the England midfielder is likely to be better than the Czech midfielder, but what if the latter is Pavel Nedved and the former is David Batty? It's just correlation not causation again.

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Re: John McGinn - signed (Captain 2022/23)
« Reply #4610 on: March 26, 2023, 04:20:30 PM »
Do you agree or disagree with the following statement?
Signing a player who has scored against a top ranked nation on the international stage would be an upgrade on McGinn.

Use specific reasons and examples to support your answer.

Youve moved the goalposts in your later posts, but this question has lots of holes in it. Lots of players who wouldnt get in the Villa side have scored against top international sides. Robson-Kanu is mentioned below, Sam Voekes also scored for Wales in the same game.

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Re: John McGinn - signed (Captain 2022/23)
« Reply #4611 on: March 26, 2023, 04:21:42 PM »
Robin Olsen is an established international.

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Re: John McGinn - signed (Captain 2022/23)
« Reply #4612 on: March 26, 2023, 04:29:38 PM »
What about players who haven't even been international players? That Dennis Mortimer, for example? Blimey, he was rubbish. Would much rather have had Graham Rix.

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Re: John McGinn - signed (Captain 2022/23)
« Reply #4613 on: March 26, 2023, 04:29:45 PM »
Robin Olsen is an established international.

As is Augustinsson. Sweden really are fucked

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Re: John McGinn - signed (Captain 2022/23)
« Reply #4614 on: March 26, 2023, 04:41:26 PM »
Anyway, its great that SJM has hit some form. I dont think hes been good since the championship but Id love him to kick on from now on.

That said, a random video popped up on my YouTube feed the other day of all our goals from last season and this, and he looked really good on that, involved in lots of them.

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Re: John McGinn - signed (Captain 2022/23)
« Reply #4615 on: March 26, 2023, 04:57:08 PM »
Anyway, its great that SJM has hit some form. I dont think hes been good since the championship but Id love him to kick on from now on.

That said, a random video popped up on my YouTube feed the other day of all our goals from last season and this, and he looked really good on that, involved in lots of them.

Back when Andy Townsend signed I always thought he was a bit underwhelming in his first season, then I watched the season highlights a couple of years back and he was involved in loads

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Re: John McGinn - signed (Captain 2022/23)
« Reply #4616 on: March 26, 2023, 04:58:17 PM »
Yes, I'll tell you that the reason you scored after 20 minutes was because you were playing against Cyprus McGinn!  They have an extremely limited pool of players from which to choose. A country in football terms which is a minnow. In all honesty he should be scoring against them if hes the main goal threat for Scotland given the difference in abilities.

The Stevenage of international football.

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Re: John McGinn - signed (Captain 2022/23)
« Reply #4617 on: March 26, 2023, 06:03:04 PM »
He now moves up to 7th in Scotland's all time Top Goalscorers list, pretty impressive.

The top scorer for Scotland is (I think) Kenny Dalglish with 30-something. It's ridiculously low anyway. Possibly to do with their bizarre policy of not picking excellent strikers like Andy Gray and Graeme Sharp back in the day.

Law and Dalglish both have 30 each but he has a chance to overtake Hughie Gallacher who's 3rd with 23 goals. They did have a bizarre selection policy though when you consider Alan Hansen only got 26 caps.

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Re: John McGinn - signed (Captain 2022/23)
« Reply #4618 on: March 26, 2023, 06:08:28 PM »
Well it the level of international goalscorer he is can be raised if he scores with any opportunity against Spain on Tuesday.
To me that would be a great statement of his form.

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Re: John McGinn - signed (Captain 2022/23)
« Reply #4619 on: March 26, 2023, 06:14:36 PM »
The likelihood though is player with a proven pedigree on the international stage would be a major asset to the team.
It's all well and good having a goal scorer for Scotland national team but would we not rather have a top player from Spain, Portugal or Germany?
I would
Despite your well laid-out post, your stating the obvious. The question is whether regularly-scoring international midfielders- who net against the best nations - would currently join Villa.

 


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