2018-19 Points Swingometer

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[Lastfootstamper]

Where are we on the 'Footyskillz swingometer'?

-2. A win on Tuesday is needed to merely tread water on the skillz-o-meter, but it'd pull us up to -5 on the ppcg*-o-meter

*points per corresponding game

[footyskillz]

Where are we on the 'Footyskillz swingometer'?

-2. A win on Tuesday is needed to merely tread water on the skillz-o-meter, but it'd pull us up to -5 on the ppcg*-o-meter

*points per corresponding game

After 10 matches

2017/18 :16 points
(2 points of play offs, 5 points off auto, 7 points off top)

2018/19: 14 points
(4 points of play offs, 5 points off auto , 6 points off top)

[Risso]

I thought it'd be interesting to see of the three teams who have been promoted in the last few years, where each team has been after 10 games, and how many points they have. Teams with an * going up via the play offs.


2017/18
Wolves - 4th 20 pts
Cardiff - 1st 23 pts
Fulham* - 10th 15 pts


2016/17
Newcastle - 3rd 19 pts
Brighton - 4th 18 pts
Huddersfield* - 1st 22 pts


2015/16
Burnley - 6th 18pts
Middlesbrough - 2nd 20 pts
Hull* - 5th 18 pts


2014/15
Bournemouth - 15th 12 pts
Watford - 3rd - 20 pts
Norwich* - 1st 20 pts


2013/14
Leicester - 3rd 23 pts
Burnley - 1st 23 pts
QPR* - 2nd 23 pts (after 9 games)


So in 5 years with 15 teams going up, only two teams have ever been outside of the top 6 this at this stage of the season, and only once has a team going up automatically having been outside the top 6 at this stage.  Both of the teams, Fulham and Bournemouth, went on unbelievable unbeaten runs to make up for a poor start.  The clear and obvious stat is that to go up, it's extremely difficult to make up for a poor start, hardly anybody ever does it, and most teams who go up average about 2 points in their first 10 games.


In short, that hopeless arse Fistface has buggered us for another season.

[Meanwood Villa]

Interesting stats there. Bit concerning as well. Every team and season is different of course but we do seem to be pretty fucked already which is a shame.

[Risso]

This season is looking like there's less between the teams than in current years, but even so, it's not rocket science to see that playing well and getting lots of points on the board early on gives you a much better chance of going up.  As I said, both Fulham and Bournmeouth had unbelievable runs at some point.  Bournmeouth had one period where they won 14 out of 16 league games, then ended the season winning 9 and drawing 3 of their final 12.  As we saw, Fulham finished the second half of last season with one lass in 24 games.  We're just not capable of that sort of form and consistency under Bruce.

[Sexual Ealing]

I'm sure I was told last season that dropping points at this stage didn't matter.

[Lastfootstamper]

It's that old adage about how you can't win a title race this early, but you can sure as hell lose one.

[Sexual Ealing]

It's only the points you win or lose at the business end of the season that make a difference, was the thinking.

[Mister E]

I thought it'd be interesting to see of the three teams who have been promoted in the last few years, where each team has been after 10 games, and how many points they have. Teams with an * going up via the play offs.


2017/18
Wolves - 4th 20 pts
Cardiff - 1st 23 pts
Fulham* - 10th 15 pts


2016/17
Newcastle - 3rd 19 pts
Brighton - 4th 18 pts
Huddersfield* - 1st 22 pts


2015/16
Burnley - 6th 18pts
Middlesbrough - 2nd 20 pts
Hull* - 5th 18 pts


2014/15
Bournemouth - 15th 12 pts
Watford - 3rd - 20 pts
Norwich* - 1st 20 pts


2013/14
Leicester - 3rd 23 pts
Burnley - 1st 23 pts
QPR* - 2nd 23 pts (after 9 games)


So in 5 years with 15 teams going up, only two teams have ever been outside of the top 6 this at this stage of the season, and only once has a team going up automatically having been outside the top 6 at this stage.  Both of the teams, Fulham and Bournemouth, went on unbelievable unbeaten runs to make up for a poor start.  The clear and obvious stat is that to go up, it's extremely difficult to make up for a poor start, hardly anybody ever does it, and most teams who go up average about 2 points in their first 10 games.

In short, that hopeless arse Fistface has buggered us for another season.

This simple analysis ought to be sent to the CEO immediately; it’s the compelling argument for making a change now.

[achilles]

I thought it'd be interesting to see of the three teams who have been promoted in the last few years, where each team has been after 10 games, and how many points they have. Teams with an * going up via the play offs.


2017/18
Wolves - 4th 20 pts
Cardiff - 1st 23 pts
Fulham* - 10th 15 pts


2016/17
Newcastle - 3rd 19 pts
Brighton - 4th 18 pts
Huddersfield* - 1st 22 pts


2015/16
Burnley - 6th 18pts
Middlesbrough - 2nd 20 pts
Hull* - 5th 18 pts


2014/15
Bournemouth - 15th 12 pts
Watford - 3rd - 20 pts
Norwich* - 1st 20 pts


2013/14
Leicester - 3rd 23 pts
Burnley - 1st 23 pts
QPR* - 2nd 23 pts (after 9 games)


So in 5 years with 15 teams going up, only two teams have ever been outside of the top 6 this at this stage of the season, and only once has a team going up automatically having been outside the top 6 at this stage.  Both of the teams, Fulham and Bournemouth, went on unbelievable unbeaten runs to make up for a poor start.  The clear and obvious stat is that to go up, it's extremely difficult to make up for a poor start, hardly anybody ever does it, and most teams who go up average about 2 points in their first 10 games.


In short, that hopeless arse Fistface has buggered us for another season.

Good grief that is damning!

[robleflaneur]

I thought it'd be interesting to see of the three teams who have been promoted in the last few years, where each team has been after 10 games, and how many points they have. Teams with an * going up via the play offs.


2017/18
Wolves - 4th 20 pts
Cardiff - 1st 23 pts
Fulham* - 10th 15 pts


2016/17
Newcastle - 3rd 19 pts
Brighton - 4th 18 pts
Huddersfield* - 1st 22 pts


2015/16
Burnley - 6th 18pts
Middlesbrough - 2nd 20 pts
Hull* - 5th 18 pts


2014/15
Bournemouth - 15th 12 pts
Watford - 3rd - 20 pts
Norwich* - 1st 20 pts


2013/14
Leicester - 3rd 23 pts
Burnley - 1st 23 pts
QPR* - 2nd 23 pts (after 9 games)


So in 5 years with 15 teams going up, only two teams have ever been outside of the top 6 this at this stage of the season, and only once has a team going up automatically having been outside the top 6 at this stage.  Both of the teams, Fulham and Bournemouth, went on unbelievable unbeaten runs to make up for a poor start.  The clear and obvious stat is that to go up, it's extremely difficult to make up for a poor start, hardly anybody ever does it, and most teams who go up average about 2 points in their first 10 games.


In short, that hopeless arse Fistface has buggered us for another season.

Excellent research which should lead to his sacking.
The saving grace is that very good teams don't have awful starts so don't feature as exceptions.We do because of Bruce.Automatic is still achievable,provided we get rid pretty quickly.
It's a bit like the few test teams who got 300  plus to win.260-5 doesn't feature.

[adrenachrome]

We've swung lowly, no question. And this against the low-lying fruit in the division.

Prognosis: dismal in the absence of radical surgery.

[VillaLoyal]

We've swung lowly, no question. And this against the low-lying fruit in the division.

Prognosis: dismal in the absence of radical surgery.

That's where the frustration sets in. Ipswich and Reading in particular. Against 10 men and conceding in the last minute.

The second half of the November and December on paper looks like a very tricky period. We will concede many goals in that period unless we sort out our defence..

[AV82EC]

Looking at the fixtures pre season and despite all the usual vagaries of our summer and you’ll never win all your games I was fully expecting to hit 8 wins from the first 12 looking at the opposition. I realise football is played on grass not paper but can anyone seriously argue that with the right preparation, tactical approach and recruitment that wasn’t achievable? The fact we’ve got nowhere near it, we’re not even “there or thereabouts”, is utterly damning of Bruce and his “coaching” set up. As others have said it’s going to take a Fulham style run with a new coach to get anywhere near the top 2 now.