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Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #810 on: February 23, 2019, 03:01:44 PM »
"Starting to"?

Offline Villa75

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #811 on: February 23, 2019, 03:42:38 PM »
It's damned if they do in some quarters. If they say nothing they're wrong and if they say promotion isn't vital they don't care.

"Vital"? Not quite what what they said.

They said they weren't "expecting" this manager and team to get promoted.



Purslow said it wasn't imperative because they wanted to build something concrete for the future. We've all being crying out for a long term approach to things versus a quick fix that falls apart. Why are you constantly spinning the negative?

I'm not the one spinning anything.

The words "not expecting" were used in relation to promotion.

Offline Fred Crump

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #812 on: February 23, 2019, 03:45:31 PM »
Zzzzzzz .....

Online Toronto Villa

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #813 on: February 23, 2019, 03:46:19 PM »
It's damned if they do in some quarters. If they say nothing they're wrong and if they say promotion isn't vital they don't care.

"Vital"? Not quite what what they said.

They said they weren't "expecting" this manager and team to get promoted.



Purslow said it wasn't imperative because they wanted to build something concrete for the future. We've all being crying out for a long term approach to things versus a quick fix that falls apart. Why are you constantly spinning the negative?

I'm not the one spinning anything.

The words "not expecting" were used in relation to promotion.

Read what said in context of the word “expecting”.

Offline Villa Lew

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Offline Steve67

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #815 on: March 23, 2019, 09:18:55 AM »
That article is a bit 'yeah?, No shit Sherlock' isn't it. Given that Purslow helped to write the rules, I trust him far more than the Mail.  I'm sure the club has a plan.  Oh, and the smaller clubs are less sympathetic? I'm sure Birmingham are seething.

Offline aj2k77

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #816 on: March 23, 2019, 10:09:51 AM »
How are the limits not increased on a yearly basis anyway seeing as wages, transfer fees and general running costs increase year on year?

Offline Villafirst

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #817 on: March 23, 2019, 10:37:01 AM »

Offline Ads

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #818 on: March 23, 2019, 10:39:51 AM »
Speculative article is speculative.

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #819 on: March 23, 2019, 10:51:22 AM »
Alan Nixon reckons we're not concerned.

Combination of a crafty CEO who wrote the rules and being richer than all the other 72, the EFL, Jesus, the Beatles and Crosesus combined I suppose.

Offline VinnieChase84

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #820 on: March 23, 2019, 11:04:47 AM »
Key points of the blues report.

EFL took into consideration who was to blame, the managers or the owners.
Our owners inherited what the past regime did.

I’m told Purslow from day one has engaged in the league and they rubber stamped a 3 year plan for us.
We’ve not even breached FFP yet as this years figures is a forecast document.
- this seasons financials will be looked at again in the summer to see if we have breached this season and by how much
- The past 2 seasons is mitigation as how can current owners change the past when not at the helm
- We have a 3 year plan working with the EFL
- we’ve been open and transparent unlike them down the road who tried to cover it up

Ultimately if we don’t go up then a Jack sale well and truly bails us out. Even if the scum sell Adams for say £15m they can only allocate a portion of that fee over the length of his contract (say £3m per season for 5 years)
With Jack his WHOLE fee goes straight into the current years books.

All this showing how the club are committed to being sustainable and working with the P&S EFL rules.
I would be astounded if we got stung and would expect us to challenge it in court of arbitration if we did

Offline VinnieChase84

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #821 on: March 23, 2019, 11:06:56 AM »
Speculative article is speculative.

It’s using us as the biggest name in the league to say “look, punishments can happen now”
The article is crap. It mentions derby being in danger but then says a sale would sort them out. That’s exactly where we are now

Online kippaxvilla2

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #822 on: March 23, 2019, 11:37:03 AM »
How long before we say screw this and form a ‘PL2’

Offline eddiemunster

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #823 on: March 23, 2019, 11:44:33 AM »
With regards to the 9 point deduction to those down the road, and the article in the Daily Heil, I suggest everyone actually read the EFL statement, which blows the Daily Heil article to bits.
https://www.efl.com/news/2019/march/efl-statement-birmingham-city/ or see below,

Note in the following, that Blues were the only team found to have breached the rules;

An EFL spokesman said: “The Profitability and Sustainability Rules, aligned with those in the Premier League, became effective in 2015/16. Season 2017/18 was the end of the first full reporting period with Birmingham City the only Club found to have breached those requirements, when it incurred adjusted losses of £48.787 million, £9.787 million in excess of the permitted losses.

Also for those crowing mind the gap etc the statement also says the following;

The parties have 14 days in which to appeal the decision, and in the circumstances no further comment will be made.
The Championship league table will be amended with immediate effect but it must be recognised that this remains subject to the outcome of any appeal.

Offline footyskillz

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Re: Financial fair play
« Reply #824 on: March 23, 2019, 12:17:35 PM »
I can see an appeal coming and them getting potentially getting a reduced points deduction to at best half so 4/5 pts half or maybe 6pts rather than the 9pts.
Whatever finally happens that club creates it's own problems ! And they don't deserve Gary Monk. He should leave come season end and go WBA after their failure to be promoted and we the villa have gone back up !!

 


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