Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread

[kippaxvilla2]

I am prepared to bet he will be a regular starter.  Him, Chester, Jedi......Tuanzebe and Hutts as the overlapping full backs........Whelan, Bolasie, McGinn, Grealish, El Ghazi, Kodija, Hogan.

Anyone who plays Tuanzebe ahead of Elmo as an overlapping full back needs sacking on the spot.

What even if you have forgotten about Elmo like I did?!

[Clark W Griswold]

Thanks for posting that info. I still say that the only people really privy to the situation are the ones running the clubs finances though.

[davidb]

You could be right.  We would have had to declare our losses in March so well before capital injections.  Maybe that is how we will avoid it next year then?  If three of them put in £8m each is that allowed?

I think the only way to avoid it is from player sales, increased revenue (merchandising, gates, tv revenue), asset sales or sponsorship (the validity is assessed) but happy to be corrected.

Perhaps the board have the view we either go for broke/a bunch of other clubs also look like they'll breach so what the heck

i did find it interesting that brighton went up 100m in debt due to stadium expenditure without any issue as infrastructure is outside of FFP (despite bigger stadium = more match revenue = more cash to spend within FFP)

[davidb]

Thanks for posting that info. I still say that the only people really privy to the situation are the ones running the clubs finances though.

Can't agree more

[Brassneck]

I am prepared to bet he will be a regular starter.  Him, Chester, Jedi......Tuanzebe and Hutts as the overlapping full backs........Whelan, Bolasie, McGinn, Grealish, El Ghazi, Kodija, Hogan.

Anyone who plays Tuanzebe ahead of Elmo as an overlapping full back needs sacking on the spot.

What even if you have forgotten about Elmo like I did?!

You are allowed to forget players.  If the manager "forgets" Elmo then he needs shooting, I don't know about sacking.

I'm just really struggling to understand these signings.

Others have alluded to two limbs in the signing structure - Bruce and the owners.  It makes no sense (to me anyway) to loan 2 x 20 year old central defenders.  The only logical explanation that I can come up with is that Axel is a Bruce signing and the other fella is an "owners" signing.

[mr underhill]

I think the truth is they are both young ,fairly inexperienced players who will get their turn equally over a very long season. It also makes sense if Elphick goes to get another CB in as Jedi is never a central defender .

[RussellC]

Reports on Twitter (corroborated by photo) that Moukoudi has returned to France, and actually straight back Le Havre to train alone, whilst making a decision over the move to Villa...

[paul_e]

Personally I think it's odd to loan out an England U20 centre back who is pretty inexperienced and replace him with a French U20 centre back who's pretty inexperienced, having already got an inexperienced England U21 player in and refused to play him in position.  This kid might be great but he's a big risk if the plan is to throw him straight in.

[mr underhill]

well it doesn't look promising if he's back in France. let's hope there is a late alternative lined up

[themossman]

Clearly bowled over by Bruce's 'vision'

[The Edge]

Reports on Twitter (corroborated by photo) that Moukoudi has returned to France, and actually straight back Le Havre to train alone, whilst making a decision over the move to Villa...

Or he's letting potential suitors know he's still available for more money. Or am I being a bit harsh?

[paul_e]

doesn't mean much, a trip to/from le havre isn't long and he could easily have wanted to speak to family/etc before making a decision.

[footyskillz]

Personally I think it's odd to loan out an England U20 centre back who is pretty inexperienced and replace him with a French U20 centre back who's pretty inexperienced, having already got an inexperienced England U21 player in and refused to play him in position.  This kid might be great but he's a big risk if the plan is to throw him straight in.

Agree so much it's a move that seems from observations unnecessary however having been linked to arsenal , West ham and Celtic he has some pedigree.

Bruce wants players who are as good if not better as current : Moukoudi is he such the ready made player ?

Harry moukoudi the new Harry Maguire ??

[paul_e]

Personally I think it's odd to loan out an England U20 centre back who is pretty inexperienced and replace him with a French U20 centre back who's pretty inexperienced, having already got an inexperienced England U21 player in and refused to play him in position.  This kid might be great but he's a big risk if the plan is to throw him straight in.

Agree so much it's a move that seems from observations unnecessary however having been linked to arsenal , West ham and Celtic he has some pedigree.

Bruce wants players who are as good if not better as current : Moukoudi is he such the ready made player ?

Harry moukoudi the new Harry Maguire ??

Oh absolutely, everything I can find is that he's very highly regarded, but given the way we've used young central defenders so far it seems a strange one.

[SirSteveUK]

You could be right.  We would have had to declare our losses in March so well before capital injections.  Maybe that is how we will avoid it next year then?  If three of them put in £8m each is that allowed?

Think we submit prov accounts in March - but they are estimates to cover up to end of May - so if they declare that they will be adding capital, they can include it