Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread

[RussellC]

I would suggest that with an obligation to buy this bloke, he isn't going to b sitting on the bench every week.

So what are you actually saying? That every permanent signing made in football automatically means that they have to go straight into the starting 11? I think there may be one or two examples where this is not the case.

Although, at this stage, it would have to be a pretty pointless / stupid signing if we're making it without the intention of him going pretty much straight into the first XI.

[Clark W Griswold]

Unless the new owners have decided to try to buy up any good young talent that they can with an eye on the future and the possibility of slowly bedding them in. Doesn't sound very stupid to me and I'd hope they've learnt something from the fiasco of 3 years ago.

[tomd2103]

Unless the new owners have decided to try to buy up any good young talent that they can with an eye on the future and the possibility of slowly bedding them in.  Doesn't sound very stupid to me and I'd hope they've learnt something from the fiasco of 3 years ago.

Agree, but at this point we really need a centre back who can hit the ground running and go straight into the team.  Of course if you want a balanced squad, then you sometimes have to buy with an eye on the future, but we are short at centre half at the moment and need to find a partner for Chester.   

[RussellC]

Unless the new owners have decided to try to buy up any good young talent that they can with an eye on the future and the possibility of slowly bedding them in. Doesn't sound very stupid to me and I'd hope they've learnt something from the fiasco of 3 years ago.

Given what we've learnt about the FFP situation this summer, I would imagine that their sole focus would be on getting us promoted, rather than committing to increase the financial deficit even further at any time in the near future...

[kippaxvilla2]

I am prepared to bet he will be a regular starter.  Him, Chester, Jedi......Tuanzebe and Hutts as the overlapping full backs........Whelan, Bolasie, McGinn, Grealish, El Ghazi, Kodija, Hogan.

[Clark W Griswold]

Unless the new owners have decided to try to buy up any good young talent that they can with an eye on the future and the possibility of slowly bedding them in. Doesn't sound very stupid to me and I'd hope they've learnt something from the fiasco of 3 years ago.

Given what we've learnt about the FFP situation this summer, I would imagine that their sole focus would be on getting us promoted, rather than committing to increase the financial deficit even further at any time in the near future...

Explain our FFP situation in detail then, please, fill me in because I have no idea of the figures involved and the implications...

[andyh]

I'm all for it, but I hope Terry is coming back too. Or Cahill on loan.

Why not both, and Huth just to make sure we have just enough cover.

I'm not sure if you're serious or whether you think having just Chester and Tuenzebe there is enough and you're trying and failing to be amusing.

Feckin hell, lighten up. It was a joke about Bruce getting is much cover as he possibly can. It obviously wasn’t funny if you didn’t get it.

[Clark W Griswold]

Unless the new owners have decided to try to buy up any good young talent that they can with an eye on the future and the possibility of slowly bedding them in.  Doesn't sound very stupid to me and I'd hope they've learnt something from the fiasco of 3 years ago.

Agree, but at this point we really need a centre back who can hit the ground running and go straight into the team.  Of course if you want a balanced squad, then you sometimes have to buy with an eye on the future, but we are short at centre half at the moment and need to find a partner for Chester.   

Yes, which was the point I was making originally.

[Arsey]

Unless the new owners have decided to try to buy up any good young talent that they can with an eye on the future and the possibility of slowly bedding them in. Doesn't sound very stupid to me and I'd hope they've learnt something from the fiasco of 3 years ago.

Given what we've learnt about the FFP situation this summer, I would imagine that their sole focus would be on getting us promoted, rather than committing to increase the financial deficit even further at any time in the near future...

Explain our FFP situation in detail then, please, fill me in because I have no idea of the figures involved and the implications...

Unless we go up and secure Prem TV revenue, we will be looking for a paddle.

[davidb]

Unless the new owners have decided to try to buy up any good young talent that they can with an eye on the future and the possibility of slowly bedding them in. Doesn't sound very stupid to me and I'd hope they've learnt something from the fiasco of 3 years ago.

Given what we've learnt about the FFP situation this summer, I would imagine that their sole focus would be on getting us promoted, rather than committing to increase the financial deficit even further at any time in the near future...

Explain our FFP situation in detail then, please, fill me in because I have no idea of the figures involved and the implications...

Best explanation ive seen https://twitter.com/swissramble/status/1001380858983534593?lang=en

but since we don't have visibility of the internal workings who really knows. If we're flush with cash I'd be giving Micah an extension, getting that villa legend gabby back and seeing who Lescott is sending picture messages to these days

[kippaxvilla2]

Not for the first time.

It is based on losses over a three year period that cannot exceed a certain figure.  If you exceed that figure over a period of three years, you are subject to punishment by the EFL - either a fine, a transfer embargo or worst case points deductions/denied promotions. 

Therefore buying players for future use is of some benefit if they have a good sell on value, but, the immediate solution is to get promoted therefore, it is in our interests to mostly have players who can adjust straight away. 

Unless we significantly increase revenue (unlikely) or get promoted next season, then by March 2019 we will almost certainly be found to be in breach of FFP through our accumulated losses over three seasons.  I am guessing we avoided it this summer because owners are allowed to put in £8m capital per year to reduce the losses.

[sirlordbaltimore]

I'm a bit disappointed to discover he's not left footed

[davidb]

Not for the first time.

It is based on losses over a three year period that cannot exceed a certain figure.  If you exceed that figure over a period of three years, you are subject to punishment by the EFL - either a fine, a transfer embargo or worst case points deductions/denied promotions. 

Therefore buying players for future use is of some benefit if they have a good sell on value, but, the immediate solution is to get promoted therefore, it is in our interests to mostly have players who can adjust straight away. 

Unless we significantly increase revenue (unlikely) or get promoted next season, then by March 2019 we will almost certainly be found to be in breach of FFP through our accumulated losses over three seasons.  I am guessing we avoided it this summer because owners are allowed to put in £8m capital per year to reduce the losses.

Wasn't the 8m to avoid insolvency? We avoided it this year because it was the final year of significant parachute payments and the sale of a few players I think

[kippaxvilla2]

You could be right.  We would have had to declare our losses in March so well before capital injections.  Maybe that is how we will avoid it next year then?  If three of them put in £8m each is that allowed?

[Brassneck]

I am prepared to bet he will be a regular starter.  Him, Chester, Jedi......Tuanzebe and Hutts as the overlapping full backs........Whelan, Bolasie, McGinn, Grealish, El Ghazi, Kodija, Hogan.

Anyone who plays Tuanzebe ahead of Elmo as an overlapping full back needs sacking on the spot.