Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread

[sid1964]

It is strange we all want new players to join (Snodgrass) etc... and then pay him £50-60k per week in the Championship even with the richest of owners this is just unsustainable for a Championship club, and part of the reason we were in the mess we were in just a couple of weeks ago!

I see that QPR have now agreed to pay £39 million for breaking FFP rules and cannot make any new signings -  we should be very careful with how much we pay any new signings.

[TheTimVilla]

Well I was told he isn't a winger, he's a 10

[berneboy]

Apologies if you all know but I was surprised to discover we could still take players on loan until 31st August and on loan with a view to purchase in January. So I suppose that could be interpreted as the window closing on August 31st.

[UK Redsox]

And what about the EFL?
EFL clubs voted through proposals that will see the EFL transfer window close after the opening game of the league season on Thursday August 9, 2018 at 5pm.

Clubs will still be able to register players who ceased to be registered with a club during the period up until August 31, 2018.

Players can also be transferred out to a club in any league whose window is still open.

EFL chief executive Shaun Harvey said: "After discussing the options throughout the course of the last few months, I'm pleased that the matter has been determined by clubs ahead of the start of next season.

"This new approach will give Clubs and managers the stability they crave earlier in the season whilst also providing the flexibility to add to their squads after the traditional deadline until the end of month if required."

Will loan deals be affected?
EFL clubs will still be able to sign players on loan up to August 31, 2018.

They will also be able to sign players on loan with an option to agree a permanent transfer when the next window opens up to August 31.

[Clampy]

Don't know a thing about Woodburn as a player but If we are going to bring in loans now, I'd prefer us bringing in one's who we have a chance of buying which is why I didn't mind Snodgrass and Johnstone who we would have probably bought had we gone up. If this Woodburn is as potentially good as people say he is, I can't see Liverpool letting him go just yet.

[footyskillz]

Apologies if you all know but I was surprised to discover we could still take players on loan until 31st August and on loan with a view to purchase in January. So I suppose that could be interpreted as the window closing on August 31st.

Can have up to 8 players in squad signed on loan

5  loan players permitted to  be in the team on the pitch at anytime.

Can sign on loan up to 4 from any one parent/specific club in squad .

However can not have more than 2 players on loan over 23 years old when signing from one specific /parent club .

Loans can sign up to 31st August as I see it   have some room for moves of the loan variety till then but no outgoings permanent after the 9th August in prem or Efl

[footyskillz]

It is strange we all want new players to join (Snodgrass) etc... and then pay him £50-60k per week in the Championship even with the richest of owners this is just unsustainable for a Championship club, and part of the reason we were in the mess we were in just a couple of weeks ago!

I see that QPR have now agreed to pay £39 million for breaking FFP rules and cannot make any new signings -  we should be very careful with how much we pay any new signings.

I rather snoddy than /and Charlie Adams.

Missed the player on that think his best days behind him - Stoke Adam .

One I was like is Ulloa on loan . Just the job at Villa . A reputed target in past I like to think he ( alternative to my touted Glenn Murray but with similar reasons to move) would be looking to move on because of the new signings and money spent.

Yes Ulloa
 

[mr underhill]

the Charlie Adams thing is utter bilge. As to Murray/Ulloa if we sign people like that, we've learned nothing and might as well join a pensioners league. We need pace!

[Keeno]

I don't doubt he's talented and all, but I don't really see the point of having him in primarily as a midfield option if Jack is staying - I know Hourihane's not everyone's cup of tea, but surely if we want more attacking thrust from midfield, we'd just give him greater licence to get forward instead of making him stand a few feet away from the defensive midfielder as was the case most of the games last season. If Woodburn is genuinely good enough to play on either flank (as opposed to, say, Onomah, who really couldn't play wide), that would be a different story.

I agree that a midfield of Bjarnason Hourihane and Grealish could be good, we're yet to see that combination really given an extended run of games to develop a relationship. From what said LFC fan told me he'd be an option in any of those forward positions so if he's available and wants to come I don't see the issue. As long as it doesn't stop Green from getting the full season I think he really needs to develop.

[Toronto Villa]

Charlie Adams in part exchange for James Chester? I’d rather take Gomez Addams.

[tomd2103]

the Charlie Adams thing is utter bilge. As to Murray/Ulloa if we sign people like that, we've learned nothing and might as well join a pensioners league. We need pace!

Murray or Ulloa on loan for a season would be just what we need to be honest and we could then put pace in around them.  Signing either of them for decent money and on a long term contract would point to a failure to learn from past mistakes though. 

[Fred Crump]

Totally agree TV. Just a small point - it’s Adam not Adams in the plural - one is bad enough for goodness sake 

[Fred Crump]

Ps I know that would have spoilt the joke 

[footyskillz]

the Charlie Adams thing is utter bilge. As to Murray/Ulloa if we sign people like that, we've learned nothing and might as well join a pensioners league. We need pace!

Murray or Ulloa on loan for a season would be just what we need to be honest and we could then put pace in around them.  Signing either of them for decent money and on a long term contract would point to a failure to learn from past mistakes though.

Exactly a big target man to hold up ball.
Have to face it the way Bruce plays these players fit the system and are having technics

Yes loan for either /or !
At most 2 year contract with a year option which we wouldn't take !

[tomd2103]

the Charlie Adams thing is utter bilge. As to Murray/Ulloa if we sign people like that, we've learned nothing and might as well join a pensioners league. We need pace!

Murray or Ulloa on loan for a season would be just what we need to be honest and we could then put pace in around them.  Signing either of them for decent money and on a long term contract would point to a failure to learn from past mistakes though.

Exactly a big target man to hold up ball.
Have to face it the way Bruce plays these players fit the system and are have technics

Yes loan for either /or !
At most 2 year contract with a year option which we wouldn't take !

Would not be offering a permanent deal to those type of players Skillzy as we would run the risk of being in the same position of having a big earner that we can't shift off the wage bill that we have been in so many times over the last few years .  Murray, Ulloa, Hugill or Wells would all be good loan options for this season.