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Offline David_Nab

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #675 on: July 13, 2018, 04:14:26 PM »
ssuming that Jedinak's on circa £40k per week, selling BB for anything over £2m would make us more cash. Short-termism, sure, but that's that way we've got to approach it I presume.

We paid £4m for Jedinak, presumably on a three or four year contract. So we would need a fee of either £1.33m or £1m (depending on how much contract the outlay was amortised over) to not show a loss on the books for FFP

This is the position we are in, where oftentimes selling a player will make the books worse even though it improves our real cash position. It also shows the folly of paying fees for and issuing contracts to players in their 30s.

I would expect to see a few players go 'on loan' and the transfer happen a year later, like we saw with Golini and Sanchez. This allows the amortised value to drop top a point where the club don't have to put the loss on the books.

Same issue McCormak as well


Offline Brassneck

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #676 on: July 13, 2018, 05:06:58 PM »
Surely if we paid £4 million for Jedinak in 2016-17 then that goes onto that year figures?  If we sell him for £1 million this summer, it's £1 million shaved off the £40 million needed to comply with FFP.

If he's on £40k a week then that's another £2 million we've saved.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #677 on: July 13, 2018, 05:07:25 PM »
ssuming that Jedinak's on circa £40k per week, selling BB for anything over £2m would make us more cash. Short-termism, sure, but that's that way we've got to approach it I presume.

We paid £4m for Jedinak, presumably on a three or four year contract.

Three.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #678 on: July 13, 2018, 05:28:15 PM »
Keep him. Covers two positions, one is already weak. Leader, old head, good influence on younger players and a bit of a cult figure. Fuck Whelan off instead.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #679 on: July 13, 2018, 05:40:35 PM »
Would imagine Whelan would be on 30k + comfortably, he was on that at Stoke.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #680 on: July 14, 2018, 10:19:00 AM »
Keep him. Covers two positions, one is already weak. Leader, old head, good influence on younger players and a bit of a cult figure. Fuck Whelan off instead.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #681 on: July 14, 2018, 10:24:41 AM »
   

Championship crisis club Aston Villa are reportedly interested in signing striker Sam Gallagher on loan from Premier League Southampton.

i hope not . must be rubbish fake crap as Bruce as RHM and Davis at the Villa . why keep using other teams players .

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #682 on: July 14, 2018, 10:36:28 AM »
   why keep using other teams players .

It's what SB knows, doesn't trust our youth unfortunately.

Offline mr underhill

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #683 on: July 14, 2018, 11:09:24 AM »
mooted swap deal with Davis going to Sparky Saints

Offline old man villa fan

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #684 on: July 14, 2018, 12:20:29 PM »
In the Championship, we should not be offering contracts over 2 years to any players other than the young ones. We should be offering a review at the end of year one and extending by another year if we want to (a bit like a 2 year rolling contract).

At this level, no player is indispensable and if the player doesn't want to extend, we either look to sell or let the contract wind down.

Hopefully, we can get out of this division sooner rather than later but in the meantime we have to lower the spend on wages. The usual way to di this is to clear experience that is not a first team regular and replace with youth. As others have said, we should not be loaning in other clubs young players at the expense of our own in our current financial position.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #685 on: July 14, 2018, 12:25:14 PM »
Spot on OMVF

Offline exigo

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #686 on: July 14, 2018, 01:11:56 PM »
Problem with that is that we'd have no transfer value. One of the many reasons the modern game is screwed.

Offline old man villa fan

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #687 on: July 14, 2018, 01:28:18 PM »
Problem with that is that we'd have no transfer value. One of the many reasons the modern game is screwed.

Generally, only young players increase in value in today's game, especially at a lower level. If you buy an older player at, say, £5m in the Championship, you will have had to pay a decent chunk in wages as well. To sell him again, somebody has to pay more or less similar wages. He will probably not be as good as he was and would then be difficult to sell.

There is very little profit to be made at this level on players on the downslope of their careers. With a massive risk if losing a lot of money. You are better at using and throwing away.

This is the Championship and running a club financially is a completely different animal to the PL.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #688 on: July 14, 2018, 01:50:33 PM »
Stoke bid five mill for Chester? Why bother wasting people’s time? Best defender in the championship last season! At least make it interesting.

Offline mr underhill

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread
« Reply #689 on: July 14, 2018, 02:12:53 PM »
15m minimum and he should go to a PL side

 


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