Summer transfer, gossip and speculation thread

[brian green]

I have got my bird spotting badge.  Blonde in Asda on the checkout, brunette in the massage parlour, redhead barmaid in the Foaming Firkin.  Small step to decent player spotting.  Yes I am confident that I can find better value players than Hogan and McCormack.

[john e]

I can see Hourihane going too.

Who else would pay him 20 grand a week?

A goal scoring midfielder,  Irish international. I'd have thought a few.

in his favour is that he's 27 a good age height of his powers and not to old

not in his favour, his best football was played at Barnsley he does one or two good things every now and again but generally comes up short and is on big wages

i don't think he will be going anywhere

[eamonn]

Hourihane came across well in his interview on Pravda today. Just wish the bone-headed interviewer had asked him his opinion on the off the field goings-on over the summer at VP like he did with Chester who steered clear of giving any lucid answers. Conor is a straight-talking Corkonian, we would have got a bit more out of him.

[JUAN PABLO]

Tyreik Wright has signed for Villa

[Holy Trinity]

Another from Cork! Assume he is developmental as he's only 17 isn't he?

[ASHTONVILLA]

See Jedinak is being linked with a move away today (Evening Mail), thugh a bit light on detail (they are not sure what country he would be moving too).

In two minds on this. I like Jedinak and he has some good qualities, but playing him means we have to have at least two more central midfielders as he is too immobile to be effective in a 4-4-2. Big earner which would be handy to get wages down, but also a great leader on the pitch which I think we need especially having just lost Terry.

[tomd2103]

See Jedinak is being linked with a move away today (Evening Mail), thugh a bit light on detail (they are not sure what country he would be moving too).

In two minds on this. I like Jedinak and he has some good qualities, but playing him means we have to have at least two more central midfielders as he is too immobile to be effective in a 4-4-2. Big earner which would be handy to get wages down, but also a great leader on the pitch which I think we need especially having just lost Terry.

Unless he is going to be used primarily as a centre half this season, I would say he is pretty expendable to be honest.  We can't really have him, Whelan and Bjarnason all in the squad competing for the same position. 

[RussellC]

I would definitely be looking to keep Jedinak. I know he'll be on a high salary, but he's not going to fetch much of a transfer fee to add to the coffers immediately, which some like BB probably would. His ability to play at CM or CM is also going to be important and, as others have said, we're going to desperately need his leadership qualities this season.

[eamonn]

Another from Cork! Assume he is developmental as he's only 17 isn't he?

Houri putting in a good word for us.

[paul_e]

I'd be happy to move on 2 from BB, Jedi and Whelan and then use Lyden as the backup.  BB probably has some value so he's the obvious choice but for the other 2 I'd be happy with which ever we can get an offer for.  If we got offers for both I'd keep Jedi, despite his faults, because his aerial ability is very valuable but I don't think any of our centre mids are irreplaceable (i'm not counting Grealish here) so if we can get enough ffp saving by letting a few of them go so that we don't need to sell chester or kodjia then it would be very happy.

[sirlordbaltimore]

I like Jedi the man, and at times the player.

But if someone's offered us say 2m and we can get his wages (rumoured to be anywhere between 28k and 50k a week) off the books i'd heartily welcome his exit as i don't think he's 'crucial'

[Chris Smith]

I would definitely be looking to keep Jedinak. I know he'll be on a high salary, but he's not going to fetch much of a transfer fee to add to the coffers immediately, which some like BB probably would. His ability to play at CM or CM is also going to be important and, as others have said, we're going to desperately need his leadership qualities this season.

I would guess that Jedinak is easily the highest earner out of the current options for those positions though.

[tomd2103]

I'd be happy to move on 2 from BB, Jedi and Whelan and then use Lyden as the backup.  BB probably has some value so he's the obvious choice but for the other 2 I'd be happy with which ever we can get an offer for.  If we got offers for both I'd keep Jedi, despite his faults, because his aerial ability is very valuable but I don't think any of our centre mids are irreplaceable (i'm not counting Grealish here) so if we can get enough ffp saving by letting a few of them go so that we don't need to sell chester or kodjia then it would be very happy.

Depends if Bjarnason is going to be viewed primarily as a defensive midfielder I suppose.  If he is, then I agree two could probably go.  If he's going to be seen more as an advanced midfielder who can cover that position if needed, then I think we would ideally need one of Whelan or Jedinak, use Bjarnason if needed along with Lyden.  Lyden is injured quite a lot isn't he and seems to have stalled a bit after making his debut a few seasons ago, but from the bits I have seen of him I wonder if Doyle-Hayes could sit in there the way Ryan Woods does for Brentford.   

[RussellC]

I would definitely be looking to keep Jedinak. I know he'll be on a high salary, but he's not going to fetch much of a transfer fee to add to the coffers immediately, which some like BB probably would. His ability to play at CM or CM is also going to be important and, as others have said, we're going to desperately need his leadership qualities this season.

I would guess that Jedinak is easily the highest earner out of the current options for those positions though.

I would still imagine that selling BB would represent better business than Jedinak. Jedinak's 34 in 2 weeks time, so I can't see us getting a fee for him. Therefore, assuming that Jedinak's on circa £40k per week, selling BB for anything over £2m would make us more cash. Short-termism, sure, but that's that way we've got to approach it I presume.

[ASHTONVILLA]

ssuming that Jedinak's on circa £40k per week, selling BB for anything over £2m would make us more cash. Short-termism, sure, but that's that way we've got to approach it I presume.

We paid £4m for Jedinak, presumably on a three or four year contract. So we would need a fee of either £1.33m or £1m (depending on how much contract the outlay was amortised over) to not show a loss on the books for FFP

This is the position we are in, where oftentimes selling a player will make the books worse even though it improves our real cash position. It also shows the folly of paying fees for and issuing contracts to players in their 30s.

I would expect to see a few players go 'on loan' and the transfer happen a year later, like we saw with Golini and Sanchez. This allows the amortised value to drop top a point where the club don't have to put the loss on the books.