Disrespecting the cups

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We haven't won it since 1957. 61 years. I'm not sure it matters whether we play a weakened side or not.

[Three Spires Villa]

Do you know he wasn’t bothered? I don’t think you do, just your opinion. Doesn’t matter anyway

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As we were the best team.in the country and we lost to Cambridge. If we had been that bothered we'd have beat them.

Yesterday some of the players clearly echoed the sense from Bruce that he wasn't arsed. Only Hourihane pressed and looked decent.

[dave.woodhall]

I know what he said at the time and I know what he said to me. I don't think he wasn't bothered about losing, I do think that like his attitude to international call-ups, he was ahead of his time and cared less than he did about league games.

[Durham58]

I know what he said at the time and I know what he said to me. I don't think he wasn't bothered about losing, I do think that like his attitude to international call-ups, he was ahead of his time and cared less than he did about league games.

Our performance in the league Cup the following season would suggest otherwise.

[Pat McMahon]

Did we field a weakened side at Cambridge in the league cup in 1980? I just thought we had an off night with our first team.

[dave.woodhall]

I know what he said at the time and I know what he said to me. I don't think he wasn't bothered about losing, I do think that like his attitude to international call-ups, he was ahead of his time and cared less than he did about league games.

Our performance in the league Cup the following season would suggest otherwise.

When we lost to the Albion?

[Durham58]

I know what he said at the time and I know what he said to me. I don't think he wasn't bothered about losing, I do think that like his attitude to international call-ups, he was ahead of his time and cared less than he did about league games.

Our performance in the league Cup the following season would suggest otherwise.

When we lost to the Albion?

That's right in the QF having played 5 tough matches to get there. 

[dave.woodhall]

I know what he said at the time and I know what he said to me. I don't think he wasn't bothered about losing, I do think that like his attitude to international call-ups, he was ahead of his time and cared less than he did about league games.

Our performance in the league Cup the following season would suggest otherwise.

When we lost to the Albion?

That's right in the QF having played 5 tough matches to get there. 

Against Wolves, Wigan and Leicester. We were hardly battling tooth and nail, and in any case the situation was a bit different.

[Durham58]

I know what he said at the time and I know what he said to me. I don't think he wasn't bothered about losing, I do think that like his attitude to international call-ups, he was ahead of his time and cared less than he did about league games.

Our performance in the league Cup the following season would suggest otherwise.

When we lost to the Albion?

That's right in the QF having played 5 tough matches to get there. 

Against Wolves, Wigan and Leicester. We were hardly battling tooth and nail, and in any case the situation was a bit different.

None of those games were push overs, we were never good enough to just brush teams aside . Wigan away was particularly  tough. In any event the  point is that Saunders played our strongest team irrespective of the  fact that we were also competing in the  European Cup.

The only occasion that I would accept that  he may have deliberately sacrificed a cup game was Ipswich way in 75, and even then we gave it everything and could well have won. Furthermore it wasn't to prioritise league points it was to ensure as many players were as fit as possible for the  League Cup final.

[dave.woodhall]

In that cup run we, the league champions, beat one top flight club, over two legs and they ended up getting relegated. But I wasn't talking about then. What I said was that in 1980-81 he didn't seem as bothered about cup defeats as about league ones.

[Durham58]

In that cup run we, the league champions, beat one top flight club, over two legs and they ended up getting relegated. But I wasn't talking about then. What I said was that in 1980-81 he didn't seem as bothered about cup defeats as about league ones.

Sure, but my point is that if there was ever going to be a season that  we might sacrifice the League Cup it was 81/82, but we didn't . we gave it our best shot including the  QF against WBA when we lost principally due to the  sending off of Tony Morley.

That suggests to me that the  Cambridge  defeat in 1980 had nothing to do with priorities particularly as we had made the effort to defeat  Leeds in the  previous round over 2 legs. It was just one of those things that can happen, unlike now when we we virtually  invite defeat against lower league opposition.

[eddiemunster]

AVFC - The Pride Live🦁 #UTV asked the question;
What would add value to the FA Cup?

Discuss...

My reply was;

Play all rounds of the FA Cup on a Saturday, with a 3.00 pm kick off for starters. Give the winner a spot in the Champions League, instead of to the 4th place in the Premiership. Have semi finals anywhere but Wembley. Give each finalist half of the seats, and fuck the prawn sarnie brigade off! Register a 20 player squad who you have to pick from for the cup games. Think that would do for starters!!!

[SoccerHQ]

Most recent example regarding us would be 2010.

When you break it down a very exciting season. Two exciting cup runs and very close to finishing 4th. Ultimately we ended up with nothing though. Would we have made CL if we'd gone out early of say the league club? Maybe not as we didn't in the previous two years when that happened under MON? Which out of finishing 4th or winning a cup would've tempted Milner to stay?

I believe since 2001 we've gone out of the 3rd round about 11 times so I just can't get worked up about going out on Saturday.

When we were a team that finished top 8 in the premier league that's when we had a team capable of winning the competition so disappointment was greater in those years (especially as we kept getting Man. United in the third round in those days).

[kippaxvilla2]

I don’t really care about blessings in disguise, preventing injuries, concentrating on the league.  There’s always an excuse. 

What I am heartily feckin sick of is continual humiliations to lower league shite that bring masses of day trippers and not only beat us but piss all over us without so much of a hint of fight from us. Whilst other clubs who have a continuous winning mentality rarely seem to have an issue competing in more than one competition.