Derby 2-0 Useless Aston Villa post match thread

[Toronto Villa]

Derby must have been frightened, they hid in their own half most of the game. Nothing wrong with that if you're confident you can deal with it and when a side is without their two best forwards and the other two are on the bench then it's probably a bet you're willing to make.

they won the game Ads. However they did it, whatever tactics they used they won the game. It's now two straight games without a goal, and barely a shot on target. Dress is up all you want and I agree that lying 5th isn't a crisis, but the trend is really alarming. If we want to go up we have to find ways to beat teams like Millwall and Derby however they choose to play against us.

[ktvillan]

No surprise whatsoever.  We stumble through a few wins and draws, then we stumble through a few defeats and draws.  Two steps forward, one and a half back.  Even If spudhead does get us up we will be leaving a trail of slime behind us, his football stinks.

[PaulWinch again]

Derby must have been frightened, they hid in their own half most of the game. Nothing wrong with that if you're confident you can deal with it and when a side is without their two best forwards and the other two are on the bench then it's probably a bet you're willing to make.

To be fair we're the lowest scorers in the top 8, so even with fit strikers it would seem to be a decent bet. We simply do not attack well enough.

[CT]

We don't dominate, we react. And when we do react, we tend to do so too late. Today Hogan should have been on at half time and had twenty odd minutes. If the crowd really do have an effect, why not make friends and influence people by coming out and playing straight away? Ads is right - Derby aren't that good but they weren't tested.

Exactly. What did Scott Carson actually have to do today apart from taking goal kicks??

[wittonwarrior]

Mistake one trying to play without a target man

Mistake two taking whelan off. Despite his howler he is the natural holding midfield player   Onomah again struggled to lace his own laces today

One minute of gabby is far too much. Surely there were better prospect sitting in the away stand.

All I want for Christmas- need a hell of a lot judging by that

[pbavfckuwait]

Sat here in Thailand Ads, I did not have the pleasure of being close up and personnel, but did have a very good stream and to say Derby were camped in there own half, I have been Trumped and Putined into watching fake news on the internet, Oh my God the end of the world is nigh, there even faking the Villa.
Most of our play was across and back, Taylor in his own half has not got a clue what to do, never mind in theirs, Whelan well he had a brain freeze, Elmo made Hutton look like Cafu, Jedi was still on Bondi. Derby were that crap and we were that good that we had 2 shots on target maybe 3 all game, Rowett owned Bruce, give them the ball until they get into our half and press them, we still had chances to create wide, but then we had no one in the middle, high ball or low. I would love to see the Villa heat map apart from corners in the Derby box.

[Ads]

We saw different things then.

When we win I hate the absence of any sort of media pressence down here. I welcome it when we lose.

[Hairbandinho]

Absolute best case scenario this season is to finish 6th.

Then we play all the teams we will have lost two in the playoffs. Awesome!!

Flat track bullies beating the garabage at the bottom of the league. Found out when playing anyone in the top 10 or so.

[Ads]

If the season finished now we'd have Derby. If we finished 6th we'd play Bristol and we drew with them.

[Rudy65]

Massively frustrating second half. It showed Derby for what they were; well organised and very difficult to breakdown which made the stupid mistake for the goal all the more frustrating.

Hogan showed by getting on the end of a few crosses what a striker up there could do. He should have started.

Without Kodjia and Davis we just had no answer to 11 men behind the ball for 45 minutes.

Snodgrass should have scored, but there wasn't enough created.

Whelan was their best player and the only opportunities they had we conspired to give them.

A dicky two games this where we are likely 3 points off the 4 target we'd have earmarked. Important we bounce back quickly to keep the automatics on the horizon heading into January.

Not sure what about our current form and games against the top 6 which makes you suggest we will go up automatically. What are you seeing that the rest of us dont?

We're 5th. Crisis.

Didnt refer to a crisis. Cardiff win tonight we are 10 points off second

[VillaAlways]

Massively frustrating second half. It showed Derby for what they were; well organised and very difficult to breakdown which made the stupid mistake for the goal all the more frustrating.

Hogan showed by getting on the end of a few crosses what a striker up there could do. He should have started.

Without Kodjia and Davis we just had no answer to 11 men behind the ball for 45 minutes.

Snodgrass should have scored, but there wasn't enough created.

Whelan was their best player and the only opportunities they had we conspired to give them.

A dicky two games this where we are likely 3 points off the 4 target we'd have earmarked. Important we bounce back quickly to keep the automatics on the horizon heading into January.

Not sure what about our current form and games against the top 6 which makes you suggest we will go up automatically. What are you seeing that the rest of us dont?

We're 5th. Crisis.

Didnt refer to a crisis. Cardiff win tonight we are 10 points off second

Which they are

[sickbeggar]

In-form Derby boosted their promotion hopes with a win over play-off rivals Aston Villa, who remain fifth but are now winless in three games and just one point clear of seventh-placed Leeds.

Aston Villa manager Steve Bruce told BBC WM: "Mistakes were what cost us the match really and we're always chasing from the first minute - the number of times we've surrendered possession and unfortunately in a big game you can't make mistakes like that because they cost you.

"Overall, in a big game, we can't make the elementary mistakes we made today."

[Mister E]

Just got back having cogitated on the game.
Our MF was really poor today. Hourihane is pretty poor and struggled to make sensible decisions. Onomah was awful again - his passing is so wayward. Snodgrass again gives the ball away too much. Whelan just looks shot.
Adomah and Grealish were good.
Hogan showed more in his game than we've seen from him to date.

However, leaving aside individual performances, my concern is as it has been throughout hte current maanger's tenure: our ball-holders do not make quick enough decisions, we slow the ball down, we have very few runners making space for the passer; we lack dynamism and thereofre get closed down too easily.

It is not looking good.

[eamonn]

Strange that he talks about surrendering possession a lot - I mean usually, yeah, we do, but we had far more of the ball according to the stats.

[SoccerHQ]

Match went completely as I expected then.

We could easily play Derby at some stage in the play offs. That's the problem with relying on that as a method to go up but looks with every week now that's going to be our only way up as we get close to top 2 and then predictably stop winning and scoring.