Derby 2-0 Useless Aston Villa post match thread

[mrfuse]

Why are our crosses from set pieces and open play so woeful?

I mentioned this in the match thread. We never look in danger of creating anything from set pieces. When we played Millwall last week they looked more dangerous from our corners than we did!

[ChicagoLion]

Bruce has to get us promoted or he's out of a job. But imagine this Villa team against the likes of Man City. Or even Watford and Burnley.

Does he really care about being sacked though? It might dent his ego but financially, it's not like getting sacked in the real world for being crap at your job. He would walk away with millions.

I don’t doubt his intent, he is just not quite good enough to do the job we need him to.

If he has any ambition he would. This is the biggest job he'll ever have and he could be about 180 minutes from losing it.

But Bruce is just a jobbing manager like Big Sam, Tony Pulis and any number of similar. He will never get the really big clubs but will still manage to make a decent living. I very much doubt that ambition is high on his list at his age. That ship has sailed.

[kippaxvilla2]

It's back to 'we've had a horrible one.'

[Ads]

I'd have thought we'd have lost our tenth in a row based on the overreaction. We're 5th, we need to stay in touch and we are. The gap to Cardiff could well increase and that is going to make it harder but all the shithouses above us have to come to Villa Park and we have half a season and 70 odd points to play for.

Today without a Kodjia we huffed and puffed against "Bruceball" Rowett and his 11 men behind the ball. Most sides would. Derby aren't very good but they are very well organised. Whelan gets his head up, it could have been mighty different. What a bleeding error.

Bruce erred in trying to keep the same shape as we are acustomed to, but it really didn't work. Hopefully Davis will be back next week as Sheffield United are in rank form but come out to try and play.

[garyshawsknee]

It's back to 'we've had a horrible one.'

or '' sometimes you have to hold your hands up ''.

[kippaxvilla2]

Mr Bruce is on WM now and thinks we played well and it was mistakes that cost us.  Oh and the word horrible was mentioned.

[dave.woodhall]

Massively frustrating second half. It showed Derby for what they were; well organised and very difficult to breakdown which made the stupid mistake for the goal all the more frustrating.

Hogan showed by getting on the end of a few crosses what a striker up there could do. He should have started.

Without Kodjia and Davis we just had no answer to 11 men behind the ball for 45 minutes.

Snodgrass should have scored, but there wasn't enough created.

Whelan was their best player and the only opportunities they had we conspired to give them.

A dicky two games this where we are likely 3 points off the 4 target we'd have earmarked. Important we bounce back quickly to keep the automatics on the horizon heading into January.

Not sure what about our current form and games against the top 6 which makes you suggest we will go up automatically. What are you seeing that the rest of us dont?

We're 5th. Crisis.

Yeah it’s all fine isn’t it !!!!

Congratulations. You are the thousandth poster to reply to an "It's not all bad" post with a variation on "Yes, everything's wonderful" when no-one has said it is.

[eddiemunster]

Eight league games and one cup game (at present) until we struggle to get a draw against the shite down the road, and our season will be over. You heard it here first!!
Championship football for a few years beckons.
Our problem is that we have far too many old, slow players, who are here collectively until 2020.
Need a clear out of not just players, but all of the crap that have been in charge at Bodymoor Heath for the last 6 years or so.
The munster has spoken!!!

[Axl Rose]

Crap manager. Yawnfest. Get the potato out. He plays Agbonlahor-that's enough to be sacked. Twat.

[kippaxvilla2]

How he can play Onomah instead of Adomah up front can only be down to him getting them confused with each other when doing the team talk.

[PaulWinch again]

I suppose if we flipped it round and were another club near the top of the league, would facing Villa frighten you based on the way we're set up and how we play? I severely doubt it. We can call Derby organised cloggers all we want, but they won against a team that doesn't appear to have an idea of how to construct an attack.

[Ads]

Derby must have been frightened, they hid in their own half most of the game. Nothing wrong with that if you're confident you can deal with it and when a side is without their two best forwards and the other two are on the bench then it's probably a bet you're willing to make.

[ChicagoLion]

The problems did not start today, to an extent he is restricted in terms of what he can do.
The problem is his mind set, he stumbled on a formula that has bought some success against limited opposition and stuck with it, and even when the personell are not available to make that system work or when it is not working, he has no idea of how to adapt and change.
This is what makes Bruce a limited manager and why he will probably fail.

[Tayls_7]

This isn't worth insulting each other and falling out over because nobody has been proven right yet. Bruce has stopped us being consistently awful and now we find ourselves candidates for promotion. Who knows how hard a challenge that was after the fuckfest we'd become over the years. For some that's enough. For others it is nowhere near (given the money we've wasted on dog shit footballers). At least respect each other's opinions.

[curiousorange]

We don't dominate, we react. And when we do react, we tend to do so too late. Today Hogan should have been on at half time and had twenty odd minutes. If the crowd really do have an effect, why not make friends and influence people by coming out and playing straight away? Ads is right - Derby aren't that good but they weren't tested.