Keith Wyness

[ChicagoLion]

As i'm not Xia or Wyness I don't know do I. I could speculate like you are, which is exactly my point that for some reason you are disagreeing with, despite the fact you are speculating as you don't know for sure.

If they had the money to pay the outstanding they would pay it and say they are paying it.
Instead they have chosen to say they are confident of making a substantial payment.
I am not sure how much clearer it can get.

I don't think they've made a formal statement on the tax payment at all have they?

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As i'm not Xia or Wyness I don't know do I. I could speculate like you are, which is exactly my point that for some reason you are disagreeing with, despite the fact you are speculating as you don't know for sure.

If they had the money to pay the outstanding they would pay it and say they are paying it.
Instead they have chosen to say they are confident of making a substantial payment.
I am not sure how much clearer it can get.

Find me the part of the club statement which references what you're saying.

[PeterWithesShin]

As i'm not Xia or Wyness I don't know do I. I could speculate like you are, which is exactly my point that for some reason you are disagreeing with, despite the fact you are speculating as you don't know for sure.

If they had the money to pay the outstanding they would pay it and say they are paying it.
Instead they have chosen to say they are confident of making a substantial payment.
I am not sure how much clearer it can get.

The club haven't said that at all. It's currently speculation, same as some places have said it will be paid in full asap. Which is also speculation.
As it stands the club haven't said a word about HMRC, just this

Aston Villa Football Club can confirm that Chief Executive, Keith Wyness, has been suspended by the club with immediate effect.

Owner and Chairman, Dr Tony Xia will assume the role until further notice.

There will be no further comment from the club at this time.

[sickbeggar]

With no income coming in and Xia prevented from bringing in money from China we literally do not have a pot to wee in
I assume this is why Bruce has not been consulted about finances for next season -  I wonder if the PAYE payments relating the the loanees remain unpaid? Having previously worked for the Revenue it's highly unlikely they would make such overtures unless this was a regular or cumulative debt

yep as someone who has been on the other side of the coin, once they get to threatening you with winding up, its not because someone inadvertently forgot to write a cheque

[ChicagoLion]

As i'm not Xia or Wyness I don't know do I. I could speculate like you are, which is exactly my point that for some reason you are disagreeing with, despite the fact you are speculating as you don't know for sure.

If they had the money to pay the outstanding they would pay it and say they are paying it.
Instead they have chosen to say they are confident of making a substantial payment.
I am not sure how much clearer it can get.

Find me the part of the club statement which references what you're saying.

Not on the OS but a direct Quote.

[russon]

I don’t think it’s just a technicality. The club hasn’t made a profit in ages, so we’re not talking about corporation tax. That means it’s almost certainly PAYE, which means we’ve not been paying it on a monthly basis. You don’t get threatened with a winding up order for being a few days late with a payment or a clerical error that you put right when you spot it a few days later.

Perhaps times have changed Risso but didn’t HMRC used to be rather more lenient regards PAYE compared to VAT? Ie. Non payment of VAT was an absolute no-no whereas non-payment of PAYE was more of a bend over son and bite this exercise book while I give you a sound thrashing. So to speak.

[PeterWithesShin]

Not on the OS but a direct Quote.

You just said it was on the OS, who was the direct quote from?

[Matt Collins]

I was always sceptical that the Chinese controls on capital outlow were a major problem for us. But maybe they are

[Kevin Dawson]

We are going back to Villa being a football equivalent of Crossroads.  Shaking scenery unbelievable plots rooms full of divas and Benny in a woolly hat.

.....and the outdoors scenes filmed in Cheltenham. Villa are moving to Whaddon Road

You mean the Jonny Rocks Stadium...

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As i'm not Xia or Wyness I don't know do I. I could speculate like you are, which is exactly my point that for some reason you are disagreeing with, despite the fact you are speculating as you don't know for sure.

If they had the money to pay the outstanding they would pay it and say they are paying it.
Instead they have chosen to say they are confident of making a substantial payment.
I am not sure how much clearer it can get.

Find me the part of the club statement which references what you're saying.

Not on the OS but a direct Quote.

You're being put to proof.

[Jon Crofts]

Ron Toss saying the bill was missed last Friday and will be paid and Villa have no other outstanding issues with HMRC, could be the VISA issue after all.

[UK Redsox]

Ron Toss saying the bill was missed last Friday and will be paid and Villa have no other outstanding issues with HMRC, could be the VISA issue after all.

PAYE would have been due on 19th (with a couple of extra days allowed if paying by bank transfer)

Don’t see how the VISA problems would affect this. A HMRC bill for a company the size of Villa is not something that’s likely to be paid by card

[KevinGage]

As i'm not Xia or Wyness I don't know do I. I could speculate like you are, which is exactly my point that for some reason you are disagreeing with, despite the fact you are speculating as you don't know for sure.

If they had the money to pay the outstanding they would pay it and say they are paying it.
Instead they have chosen to say they are confident of making a substantial payment.
I am not sure how much clearer it can get.

Find me the part of the club statement which references what you're saying.

Not on the OS but a direct Quote.

You're being put to proof.

https://news.sky.com/story/aston-villa-suspends-ceo-as-club-races-to-meet-hmrc-tax-bill-11395857

Aston Villa Football Club has suspended its chief executive just days after losing the match badged as the most lucrative in world football, as it faces the potential threat of a winding-up order over a multimillion pound tax bill.

Sky News has learnt that Villa, which last month lost the Championship play-off final against Fulham, has been given a brief extension by Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs to make the payment.

One source said the bill was due to be paid last week, and that the grace period to make the payment could be as short as a week.

If HMRC did serve a winding-up order against Villa, it could threaten the existence of one of the founder members of the English Football League in 1888.

However, a source close to the club insisted on Tuesday that its board was "confident of making a substantial tax payment within days".

[villa `cross the mersey]

Ron Toss saying the bill was missed last Friday and will be paid and Villa have no other outstanding issues with HMRC, could be the VISA issue after all.

would payments be made to the Revenue via BACS or CHAPS system rather than VISA .....ie directly through the Bank ?

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