Villa vs Birmingham Football Rivalries Show on Sky Sports

[FrankyH]

Re Enkleman touching the ball or not, his body language is the giveaway because if he knew the laws of the game he would know that if he hadn't touched it the outcome IIRC would be a corner kick.  You cannot score against yourself from a thow-in among other scenarios.

Correct Dave. I was howling at the the tv in the pub on this point. All those years as a kid reading Paul Trevelion's "You are the ref" columns in Shoot or newspapers had their use!

I met Enckelman's girlfriend around 2008 as she had previously worked for our employer and came along to a bash to see her old mates. We chatted and she said that the management and coaching staff at Villa really gave him no support after that incident and he had a tough time. Apparently Schmeichel was very supportive, sending texts and messages from long distance.

To be fair to Encks, it wasn't his job to know the in depth laws of the game, it was the ref's, and he got it wrong.

David f”cking Ellery

[john e]

Enkleman would have been a top class goalie if he hadn't have been so scared of the ball

[Chinchilla Bathhouse]

One thing I never thought Enckelman got enough credit for was his ice cool reaction to the goal. To stay motionless and calm while that knuckle-dragging simpleton slapped his face must have taken incredible self-control. I dread to think what might have kicked off had Encks hit back.  Sod the goal, it was human error, but the response was almost superhuman. His conduct and dignity in the face of huge provocation (literally) was admirable, and might have saved a riot. Elleray should have been sending him a thankyou card, the useless git.

[LeeB]

Late on in that season he had a blinder away to West Ham in a 2-2 draw which helped send them on their way and pull us out of it.

I prefer to remember him that way.

[olaftab]

Enkleman would have been a top class goalie if he hadn't have been so scared of the ball

Yes that was the only flow in his game.

[West Derby Villan]

Enkleman would have been a top class goalie if he hadn't have been so scared of the ball

Yes that was the only flow in his game.

Ha ha had to read that twice mate, but yeah agree with your view

[andyh]

My uncle had a brother
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Doesn't that make him your uncle too?
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Or his dad !

[nodge]

No, my dad's sister's husband would be my uncle but his brother wouldn't be.

[Gareth]

If you are being kind to Elleray you’d say he at best guessed if Enk had touched the ball....even video replay wouldn’t give definitive so how he made that call was pathetic, attention seeker!

Saying that I remember morning about Purse clobbering Angel earlier in the game with no punishment, not a patch on McMahons slightly ill timed challenge though :-)

[nodge]

I just wish that our goalkeeper that night would have been either Jim Cumbes, Jimmy Rimmer, John Burridge, Nigel Spink, Mark Bosnich, Les Sealey, David James, Peter Schmeichel etc, etc and some clown from Hobs Moat would have probably landed on his arse and if that started a riot then the game would have been abandoned and the referee would have had to read the rule book and realise he didn't have a clue, instead of shitting himself in "cue ball corner" and giving the goal.

[Ads]

Purse should have walked
Vassell was onside
Encklemen never touched it

[rim gk]

Purse should have walked
Vassell was onside
Encklemen never touched it

the 5-1 made up for it.

[SoccerHQ]

In those days I honestly starting thinking we would never beat them again. It was bizarre, we'd generally play well in most of the early games but some of the mistakes/luck they got was off the scale. Last time they beat us in the prem for example Solano hit a great free kick that hit the outside of the post at 0-0 and then second half Sorensen decided to chuck another in.

How sweet when it eventually turned around and we started to get some of the 50/50 decisions like that late Gabby penalty.

[ktvillan]

David fucking Elleray.  How I hated that gimp of a ref.  Never seemed to give us a thing and regularly made some horrendous decisions against us - Sunderland away, their player handles it, penalty to Sunderland.  As well as being a pompous arrogant posh boy prick.  If there is anyone in the world I'd like to hang upside down in a sack and beat mercilessly with a baseball bat it's probably David Fucking Elleray.

[Nev]

David fucking Elleray.  How I hated that gimp of a ref.  Never seemed to give us a thing and regularly made some horrendous decisions against us - Sunderland away, their player handles it, penalty to Sunderland.  As well as being a pompous arrogant posh boy prick.  If there is anyone in the world I'd like to hang upside down in a sack and beat mercilessly with a baseball bat it's probably David Fucking Elleray.

He was "Sportsmaster" at a public school I believe which should automatically preclude him from being involved in football at any level.

I recall one particularly vexed supporter remonstrating with him at an away game:
 "I know you Erralley (sic), I know where your kids go to school". I think drink had been taken.

And he was always blowing his nose. (not the fan, Errally...erm I mean Elleray)