Villa vs Birmingham Football Rivalries Show on Sky Sports

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Thought it was a bit shit to be honest. Bit easy to concentrate on the Enkelman 'error' but hey it was in the Sky modern football era.

I will say Kevin Broadhurst came across as a bit of a cock with his "we chased em" comment about the 1983 game.

Didn't he just. That's them all over. An utter embarrassment.

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Most of the history isn't what Sky would like to broadcast though.

5-1 apart, the football is invariably shite and there's very few red cards.

[cdbearsfan]

Genuinely never heard of him before, another absolute nobody who will now be awarded "legend" status as he doesn't like the Villa.

Googled him and it turns out he's in their Hall of Fame! Dread to think who else is in there. Enckelman and Jasper Carrott, most likely.

[Darlo Dave]

Genuinely never heard of him before, another absolute nobody who will now be awarded "legend" status as he doesn't like the Villa.

Googled him and it turns out he's in their Hall of Fame! Dread to think who else is in there. Enckelman and Jasper Carrott, most likely.

Steve Carr is a legend cus he called da vile fans w***ers (in a game they lost).

[Damo70]

In the league they were. FA Cup game was Forest. Last time they got 30K for a league game that wasn't against us was 1980.

Must have been against a team they thought were us.

[Damo70]

It was a bit rushed for me. They could have done an hour. Although half an hour is probably more suited to a neutral. When ITV4 used to show The Big Match there was one with a decent chunk of the highlights of the 3-0 in December 1980. It was a pretty even and pretty tasty first half and then we scored three relatively late goals. I love hearing interviews with Ron Saunders. I am as scared of him now as I was as a kid.

[martin o`who??]

It was ok I suppose. Does anyone know what Gary Shaw does these days, is he still in football?

He was drinking around Harborne a few years back but not seen him in a while. Whatever the fella is up to i hope he is prospering, imagine the money he would have made in today's game, unfortunately for him he was a generation too early - in more ways than one.

[Damo70]

It was ok I suppose. Does anyone know what Gary Shaw does these days, is he still in football?

He was drinking around Harborne a few years back but not seen him in a while. Whatever the fella is up to i hope he is prospering, imagine the money he would have made in today's game, unfortunately for him he was a generation too early - in more ways than one.

Last I heard he was a rep for a brewery and going out with a very fit girl who was a lot younger than him and a mate of my cousin. I think he also worked for the FA on the OPTA stats side of things at games. That information is a fair few years ago though so I have no idea what he has been doing recently.

[martin o`who??]

Genuinely never heard of him before, another absolute nobody who will now be awarded "legend" status as he doesn't like the Villa.

Googled him and it turns out he's in their Hall of Fame! Dread to think who else is in there. Enckelman and Jasper Carrott, most likely.

Steve Carr is a legend cus he called da vile fans w***ers (in a game they lost).

You've only got to remember Paul "Tosser" Taits main claim to fame to know what cooks their cookie.

[rim gk]

Thought it was a bit shit to be honest. Bit easy to concentrate on the Enkelman 'error' but hey it was in the Sky modern football era.

I will say Kevin Broadhurst came across as a bit of a cock with his "we chased em" comment about the 1983 game.

Didn't he just. That's them all over. An utter embarrassment.

complete scum got everything he deserved by steve mcmahon, one of my favourite moments of the Derby ending the
bastards career.

[cdbearsfan]

Sound a bit like one of them, there.

[rim gk]

In the league they were. FA Cup game was Forest. Last time they got 30K for a league game that wasn't against us was 1980.

But...but they keep telling us that everyone in Birmingham supports them.  Birmingham has a population of 1.1m people.

there's many people who don't follow football let alone support a team and then there's the man utd Liverpool brigade.

Yeah but Small Heath took 500,000 to Wembley

the 50k small heath took Wembley are they all related and do all live on the same road?

[Villa Lew]

Disappointing but not surprised as 1/2 hour was not long enough, should have been an hour.

The 1983 match was probably the dirtiest match I have ever seen, don't know why the ref bothered to take the ball out onto the pitch, these days there would have been 6 reds, and that's on each side. As for the Enkelmann match still don't think he touched the ball, and I remember at the time we were on top. Legend Melberg's pre match comments didn't help either. If you blinked you missed Cahill's goal and likewise the 5 - 1 humiliation.

Still without doubt as fierce as any derby played in Britain, well England anyway, as both clubs have some of the most passionate fans in the country.

[stuart445]

In the league they were. FA Cup game was Forest. Last time they got 30K for a league game that wasn't against us was 1980.

But...but they keep telling us that everyone in Birmingham supports them.  Birmingham has a population of 1.1m people.

there's many people who don't follow football let alone support a team and then there's the man utd Liverpool brigade.

And don't forget all 10s of thousands that work shifts at rover

[dave shelley]

Re Enkleman touching the ball or not, his body language is the giveaway because if he knew the laws of the game he would know that if he hadn't touched it the outcome IIRC would be a corner kick.  You cannot score against yourself from a thow-in among other scenarios.