Aston 'where will it all end' Villa v Middlesvilla Post Match Thread.

[andyh]

No way was the Angie challenge a red, stupid and cynical definitely, and the kind of challenge i'd like to be an automatic red but you very rarely see them given.

The ref was always going to look to level it up after sending Adomah off so early.

[Sexual Ealing]

No way was the Angie challenge a red, stupid and cynical definitely, and the kind of challenge i'd like to be an automatic red but you very rarely see them given.

They should be given as reds imo. I hate them challenges. For me its as bad as diving which should also be a straight red

It's really much worse than diving. Nobody's going to injure an opponent with a dive.

[frank black]

It wasn't a red card challenge by Landsbury, but it was pointless and stupid and gave the ref a chance to even things up. Gotta hate inconsistency from refs.

[London Villan]

Only we get a player sent off for that type of foul.

[SoccerHQ]

In answer to the title thread, never.

Or at least seriously not this year which I reckon will be a disaster for our "engine."

Our play was as pedestrian as it was last year. If Boro had kept 11 on I think we'd have struggled to have got a shot on target. We move the ball so slowly and it does seem we're not for a prolonged stay at this level like so many other clubs unless the owner rolls the dice in the next week or so.

It's got to that stage for me. We still can't win away and we're regularly drawing home games so same as last year and we were miles off the pace then.

[olaftab]

I thought we were unlucky tonight. We dominated the game specially after Lansbury was sent off. I can not blame Bruce for not winning. Watching the game I am not sure how it ended 0-0. I am sure stats will show that we had enough control to win two matched let alone one. Terrible night weather wise but nice and warm now.

[Marlon From Bearwood]

Just heard Bruce on WM. He said we played against ten men for 40 minutes. It was 60, you bull shitter.

He also said the fans reaction was hysterical. What a wanker.

[aj2k77]

Just seen Bruce. Keeps saying we have the makings of a good team but we rarely field the same team for two games. What is our best team Brucie? Maybe a little unlucky tonight but you could argue the first half was wasted by ploughing on with the starting formation.

We don't have the makings of a good football team though. It's a myth or a fantasy, like last season the ongoing claim that we were just about to gub someone good and proper. It's what we'd like to happen but ojectively, take a look at our performances for the last 40 or so games, by and large they are huff and puff with very little skill or guile on show.

We are bang average, have overpaid massively throughout the squad, as per usual and year on year the genuine quality is getting lower.

[paul_e]

I thought we were unlucky tonight. We dominated the game specially after Lansbury was sent off. I can not blame Bruce for not winning. Watching the game I am not sure how it ended 0-0. I am sure stats will show that we had enough control to win two matched let alone one. Terrible night weather wise but nice and warm now.

Tonight is a consequence of everything else that's happened, it's why managers/clubs go into a death spiral.  Once the players stop believing that they will win they start snatching at chances.

[SoccerHQ]

I will say irrespective of whether the red card was deserved Lansbury has been absolutely awful since he came to Villa. I can remember one decent half and that was his debut I think.

He was charging around like a demented maniac tonight, constantly sliding into challenges all the time. It was a million miles away from the cultured midfielder on his debut. Big worry if his head is gone from not playing much.

Challenge was stupid aswell as Boro were hardly crossing the halfway line so I'd have just let that attack go as I imagine it would've fizzled out like the others.

[andyh]

Just heard Bruce on WM. He said we played against ten men for 40 minutes. It was 60, you bull shitter.

He also said the fans reaction was hysterical. What a wanker.

If he said that then he really is a ******.

[Clampy]

Never a red. I can't remember when i last saw a red card given for a cynical foul like that so far out.

As for the game, would have won it had it not been for snodgrasss trying to break the net and Hogan thinking he was a defender. Maybe Bruce should have thrown on Adoma just after they went down to ten men? All in all, frustrating.

[SoccerHQ]

It's not going to happen here for Hogan btw. The block of the shot on the line was unfortunate.

What hacked me off more is constantly being told he needs crosses and he will score. Second half we finally get a decent cross into the box that cuts out the defenders, he's unmarked six yards out and completely misses his kick.

He's just a luckless forward and not a very good one everytime I watch him live.

[SoccerHQ]

I can't comment on how we played and it's a shit result in the circumstances

But it did sound like we could have easily had three or four today

We really couldn't have.

Well as I say above we hit the bar, hit our own man on the line, Bjarnason missed a sitter, hogan missed a sitter?

I was one of the very last defenders of Lambert on this site so I know how you feel, but I really think you're backing the wrong mule here.

I'm not a big fan of Bruce and his style of play

If there's a better option I'm up for it

I'm not sure who that is at the moment

And I'm not blaming Bruce for Lansbury being an idiot, or us missing some absolute sitters

Sky, the E&S, Mail and other sources all say we missed a catalogue of chances. I'll watch the highlights in a bit and make my own mind up

To be honest I'm partly just reacting against the match thread which was just preposterous

Creating chances is the absolute minimum in a home game against a team that has ten men for practically the home game.

As soon as the red happened I settled down and thought surely we can squeeze out a comfortable 2-0 win.

Never fails to cease me how much lower we can sink in standards.

[Fin Feds Dad]

Whoever scouted Bjarnason should be sacked immediately. He isn't a footballer, he's just a bloke in a football kit.

Skit - Icelandic for shit . That's what I was googling in the first half !