Aston Villa v Brentford Post-Match Thread

[Villa75]

He tells the truth?

He went from 6 months to 9 months managing us in a few weeks!

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We had a well balanced XI and a bench that had Jedinak, Snodgrass, Hogan, Lansbury etc with Kodjia, Grealish and Adomah not in the 18. It is embarrassingly strong for this league.

To put out a display as we did was criminal.

Too deep and too content to let their aub-Westwood ginger get on the ball from deep and dictate play. It was a good job they were shite or we'd have been hammered and even then we had Johnstone make two very good saves to keep us in it.

It's entirely unacceptable and a complete regression back to Cardiff and Reading.

The pressure is increasing with each disappointing result. This month we needed to take 12 points at the least, but it's tough to see after results and performances like that.

The excellent Norwich performance was off the back of abject offerings, but if Bruce finds himself unemployed in October he cannot complain.

There isn't a stronger squad. This is unacceptable.

[SoccerHQ]

Bruce is not more honest than most.

He is the master of spin and bullshit.

You're wrong but we are into a familiar phase on this site. It's not enough just to criticise the performances, people have been doing that for months, in order to take it further other reasons to slag him off have to be found.

This is from the post match interview:

Do you understand the fans’ frustrations?

“Yes, of course.

“It’s arguably the worst we’ve been since I’ve been here.

“I’ve been here for nine months now but we today we didn’t have any spark.

“We didn’t do anything with the ball or without it.

“We look jaded.

“I look at myself and take the responsibility for that. I should have done better.

Stuff the honesty, is he incapable of working on the training ground (or getting his assistants to do it if he takes a back seat) to correct these weaknesses?

[Chris Smith]

He tells the truth?

He went from 6 months to 9 months managing us in a few weeks!

Do you seriously think that was a considered deception rather than merely a mistake?

It is, however, a good illustration of the trend I am describing whereby every single thing becomes subject to scrutiny and over analysis. There is enough important stuff to focus on, namely poor results and performances, without the additional nitpicking.

[Villa75]

He tells the truth?

He went from 6 months to 9 months managing us in a few weeks!

Do you seriously think that was a considered deception rather than merely a mistake?

It is, however, a good illustration of the trend I am describing whereby every single thing becomes subject to scrutiny and over analysis. There is enough important stuff to focus on, namely poor results and performances, without the additional nitpicking.

I think it was another attempt to bullshit the gullible.

[andyh]

Bruce is not more honest than most.

He is the master of spin and bullshit.

You're wrong but we are into a familiar phase on this site. It's not enough just to criticise the performances, people have been doing that for months, in order to take it further other reasons to slag him off have to be found.

This is from the post match interview:

Do you understand the fans’ frustrations?

“Yes, of course.

“It’s arguably the worst we’ve been since I’ve been here.

“I’ve been here for nine months now but we today we didn’t have any spark.

“We didn’t do anything with the ball or without it.

“We look jaded.

“I look at myself and take the responsibility for that. I should have done better.

All of that is complete spin and bullshit.

For a start, he has been here longer than 9 months, but regardless of how long it has been, what relevance did it have to his explanation as to why were shit again yesterday. It had no fucking relevance whatsoever.

And it's the worst since he's been here? More fucking spin.
Has he forgotten, all the other shit results and crap performances that we have witnessed since he joined.

I have the ability to think for myself and can see through spin and bullshit that people in the public eye spew out in order to protect themselves or use as diversionary tactics.

I can back up my reasons for calling him out with reasoned argument.  To just say he is 'being slagged off' is being just as disingenuous as Bruce is with his comments.

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I assume the relevance is to provide context to it being the worst performance in 9 months. I'm not sure how that's spin or bull shit. It probably was.

I think you're grasping to be honest and not making much sense.

[Chris Smith]

He tells the truth?

He went from 6 months to 9 months managing us in a few weeks!

Do you seriously think that was a considered deception rather than merely a mistake?

It is, however, a good illustration of the trend I am describing whereby every single thing becomes subject to scrutiny and over analysis. There is enough important stuff to focus on, namely poor results and performances, without the additional nitpicking.

I think it was another attempt to bullshit the gullible.

You come across, in this exchange, like a conspiracy theory fruitcake.

[andyh]

'I'm not sure if that's spin or bullshit. It probably was'

I think it you who is making no sense.

[oswald funkletrumpet]

He tells the truth?

He went from 6 months to 9 months managing us in a few weeks!

And still wrong

[Villa75]

He tells the truth?

He went from 6 months to 9 months managing us in a few weeks!

Do you seriously think that was a considered deception rather than merely a mistake?

It is, however, a good illustration of the trend I am describing whereby every single thing becomes subject to scrutiny and over analysis. There is enough important stuff to focus on, namely poor results and performances, without the additional nitpicking.

I think it was another attempt to bullshit the gullible.

You come across, in this exchange, like a conspiracy theory fruitcake.

Absolute nonsense.

The guy is in survival mode and desperate. He spews out any old nonsense in the hope some of it will create enough of a smokescreen to placate the gullible amongst us.

It seems he's not entirely wrong.

[Villa75]

He tells the truth?

He went from 6 months to 9 months managing us in a few weeks!

And still wrong

Some would say, just another genuine mistake from an honest guy.

[Malandro]

Bruce's interviews are just bog standard, manager under pressure waffle.
Very little to get upset about, if he told it as it is, he'd be sacked.

The useless fist-faced tatty.

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'I'm not sure if that's spin or bullshit. It probably was'

I think it you who is making no sense.

I'm clearly stating that I think it probably was one of the worst performances. I suspect you knew that.

[PeterWithesShin]

It makes him look stupid that he can't even get it right on how long he's been here. Not surprisingly people will comment on that. In the last month he's repeatedly said 6 months, and then repeatedly 9 months.
I definitely think some of it is spin to deflect from what a crap job he's doing. It's why he was banging on about being under pressure after 1 game, when it's blatantly obvious we've been poor under him for most of his 40+ games. It's why he was getting in digs at critics after 1 good performance, as though that's the kind of performance we usually get under him rather than an anomaly. It's why he goes on about having no money, and yet 8 of yesterdays starting 11 were his signings, as were 2 of the 3 subs.