Aston Villa v Brentford Post-Match Thread

[oswald funkletrumpet]

Took me this long to get Home. 

Not very good, and worse, not very promising.

Against a team that our opposition had suddenly found money to buy their best 3 players 

Brentford rang rings around us.

TERRY   

The Stand-By Manager ....TERRY.... that so many on here  assumed was our future ...was total cr@p ,,imo

I was watching him...the guy hardly runs, he seems to WALK EVERYWHERE.

I doubt his fitness will allow him another 2 matches in 7 days, judging by his   'walking-skills'

... I sometimes think that they are ALL having a LAUGH at XIA.

And...as much as I think XIA is a pr@t.... I do believe that he is being ripped-off from Wyness- Bruce - Terry - down the line.

XIA is an innocent - imo - who believes his own PR.

TONY - NON-DOCTOR - Please get out of Villa.And take those waste of Spaces with you

 

The Doctor is pretty much the only ray of sunlight at the club presently (and the youngsters-who under a better manager would be the heartbeat of our team. I include Johnstone, Bree and Onomah in that group)

I can't say I'm too fond of any of our more seasoned 'pros'.

Chester looks dodgy this season, Whelen had a very poor game. Elmo seems lost, Agbonlahor should be thrown down a very wide well....it's.....as mr underhill pointed out above....groundhog day.

A very very poor performance. £110 to watch the games seems like the worst thing I've ever bought at the moment.

Based on what

his managerial appointments so far?
The people he has appointed to run the club?
The spunking of money on shite?

[Axl Rose]

Well, for me-his enthusiasm for the club and backing managers to spend money on (on paper) some decent players, who most of us thought would do well. They're definitely not all shite.

I like his communication with the fans, and the feeling of hope he gave us after the Lerner years.

He seems to genuinely care about the club, but that's just how I see it.

[mr underhill]

if he genuinely cares about the club he has to sack Bruce now.

[QuintonVilla]

Well, for me-his enthusiasm for the club and backing managers to spend money on (on paper) some decent players, who most of us thought would do well. They're definitely not all shite.

I like his communication with the fans, and the feeling of hope he gave us after the Lerner years.

He seems to genuinely care about the club, but that's just how I see it.

We signed Lansbury, one of Forest's best players.
Hourihane, Barnsley's best player.
Hogan, Brentford's goalscorer.
Terry, one of the Premier League's best ever defenders.

Who's our player of the season so far? Sam Johnstone. Our fecking goalkeeper.

All that money and those signings and we've got some raw kid up front who offers no goal threat. Elmohamady on the wing who's only attribute is winning headers when it's hoofed up. I said a couple of weeks ago there aren't anywhere near enough goals in this squad but that suits Bruce's try and win 1-0 philosophy, apart from the Norwich game but they're dreadful away and got stuffed at Millwall. Derby for instance have got Martin, Bent, Vydra, Winnall, Nugent, that's just their strikers to bring on if they need a goal. They've got goals in midfield aswell. We brought on Gabby. Let's say Kodjia comes back and scores 15-20, who's going to score the other 50+ goals to get us up there? Brighton and Newcastle scored 70-80 odd last season. We're a million miles from that.

[Clark W Griswold]

I think he'll make a decision at the end of the month. Personally I'd say he needs 4 league wins from the remaining games to be guaranteed to keep his job. A bit less and it's very questionable and a continuation of 1 point per game or slightly more and he'll definately be out. I think he'll not do enough, he isn't going to turn this shite around to the level he needs to.

[PeterWithe]

As well as using the ball very well, the ginger lad did a good job defensively shielding the ball along the ground into Davies, we didn't get forward anywhere near fast enough.

Apart from Johnstone I thought the only players to emerge with any credit with any credit were Green and Onhoura who worked hard without offering too much in the way of threat.

[Salsa Party Animal]

I would like to see Aston Villa to lost 7-0 asap so it will wake up the owner to make them sack Bruce.

[mr underhill]

we don't need to get spanked to be able to draw that conclusion

[Walmley_Villa]

Brentford got their tactics spot on, stop Hourihane and Green. What concerned me was that second half Bruce had Hourihane playing deep instead of supporting Davis. Hourihane was our only goal threat on the pitch from the starting 11 and didn't have a sniff.

[Proposition Joe]

Yes it's not playing one up top that's the problem. It's having no coherent style of play to utilise that one.

I think one of our main issues is what Bruce hinted at in his interview: we are very poor at winning the ball back when we lose it. This is down to the manager and coaching staff, who have not come up with a strategy (e.g. organised pressing) that works.

When we lose the ball, we only seem to get it back when the opposition lets us, be it by them giving it away, missing a shot or Johnstone picking it out of his net.

[Brend'Watkins]

I thought Terry was very solid, probably our best outfield player even though Dean Smith's plan was to play on the major weakness of our central defence while the blond haired chap was on the pitch. The rest of them to a man were poor particularly Whelan. Green should have been taken off before his injury as he was completely ineffectual.

I see no point sticking with Bruce or any of the coaching staff, there is nothing there to suggest this will improve.

[in exile]

Outplayed and out bullied by a bunch of kids.
Whelan - hang your head in shame

[Deano's Mullet]

We sit way too deep leaving the target man no chance of holding it up for the ten minutes it takes everyone else to catch up. I'm not a Terry fan but he made a run into their box first half which was probably the most penetration we had all match. Everything seemed to be about getting the ball into Green on the flanks. I thought Bree was poor but he's ok up to now and Chester seems like a different player since we've signed Terry. I don't think Whelan is that bad, he just has no movement around him to pick out players, Hourihane was too deep and Elmohaddy did bugger all all match. Brentford fans on the train back reckon the best way to utilise Hogan is for him to race on to through balls past the last man, he gets caught offside a lot doing it but his goal record is there to see. We don't play that way though obviously.

[Clampy]

I can only presume Adomah was injured because he should at least be on the bench. In fact, there's a case for him starting ahead of Elmo, at home anyway. One thing that annoyed me yesterday was Green playing far too deep in the first half yesterday. It was almost as if he was protecting his full back. Snodgrass would have been better off playing for the under 23's tomorrow. He looked extremely rusty.

[JUAN PABLO]

The thing is, you just know that if Ryan Woods played for us, he'd be as ineffectual as the rest, because of the way the team sets up and approaches thegame.

exactly