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Offline paul_e

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Re: Manager suggestions - Now with added poll
« Reply #1305 on: December 28, 2017, 10:33:51 AM »
I think Dean Smith would be a huge mistake, "He's got Villa in his blood" and a few good performances against us is nothing like enough for him to be overwhelming favourite, this is why we ended up with managers like Sherwood and Lambert as well.

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Re: Manager suggestions - Now with added poll
« Reply #1306 on: December 28, 2017, 10:36:31 AM »
the only time I ever see the name Bielsa mentioned anywhere is on this site

to me he’s like the Detectorists or Breaking Bad off the TV, I only started watching them because of the recommendations of H&V

so if Bielsa is as good as the tv recommends then let’s go get him, if only Wyness reads this site because he won’t have a clue who he is either




 

The thing is, whoever's making the big footballing decisions at the club should bloody well have a wider pool of candidates at hand than what fans on a message board, or on Twitter can come up with. I mean, there's no chance that Huddersfield fans would've been coming up with Wagner, or Hull fans Marco Silva, or Leeds fans Christensen at the relevant times, yet clearly in each of those cases, the clubs have done their due diligence and picked the right man. I'm not saying to pick one of the usual suspects is necessarily bad either, but my gut feeling is that the club doesn't have the right decision-making processes in place.

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Re: Manager suggestions - Now with added poll
« Reply #1307 on: December 28, 2017, 10:39:45 AM »
the only time I ever see the name Bielsa mentioned anywhere is on this site

to me he’s like the Detectorists or Breaking Bad off the TV, I only started watching them because of the recommendations of H&V

so if Bielsa is as good as the tv recommends then let’s go get him, if only Wyness reads this site because he won’t have a clue who he is either




 

The thing is, whoever's making the big footballing decisions at the club should bloody well have a wider pool of candidates at hand than what fans on a message board, or on Twitter can come up with. I mean, there's no chance that Huddersfield fans would've been coming up with Wagner, or Hull fans Marco Silva, or Leeds fans Christensen at the relevant times, yet clearly in each of those cases, the clubs have done their due diligence and picked the right man.

I'm sure that's the case. For example, I know it didn't work out but none of us on here mentioned Remi Garde.

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Re: Manager suggestions - Now with added poll
« Reply #1308 on: December 28, 2017, 10:42:18 AM »
I think Dean Smith would be a huge mistake, "He's got Villa in his blood" and a few good performances against us is nothing like enough for him to be overwhelming favourite, this is why we ended up with managers like Sherwood and Lambert as well.

Eh, I think Lambert was a fair enough one at the time. Consecutive promotions, solidified Norwich as a PL team while playing decent football and without much of a budget, and was praised for his tactical flexibility and ability to improve the players he had. It didn't work out, but that happens sometimes - unfortunately, we compounded things by leaving it far too late to bin him though.

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Re: Manager suggestions - Now with added poll
« Reply #1309 on: December 28, 2017, 10:50:38 AM »
Oscar Garcia. I think he's out of work too.

Offline Damo70

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« Reply #1310 on: December 28, 2017, 10:53:09 AM »
Bielsa would take the job. Jokanovic would come tomorrow. Flores would be interested. If we pot Bruce and the answer is Monk, or Smith, or Hurst at Shrewsbury, or Lee Johnson, or Redknapp, or whoever the fuck else from these isles I won't be impressed.

For every Dyche there are 20 Sherwood's. We need a tactically astute bloke from the continent, who is solid of mind on how we should play, and will not be overawed by expectations at a big club.

You could get a Bielsa,  a Koeman, a Cocu. Please God not someone whose biggest managerial exploit is Shrewsbury though. They might turn out great but we need someone to walk in with a plan, gravitas in the dressing room and who is pretty confident they are great as well.


What is wrong with appointing someone whose biggest managerial exploit so far is Shrewsbury?

Ah, hang on. I think I've remembered now. ;)

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Re: Manager suggestions - Now with added poll
« Reply #1311 on: December 28, 2017, 10:53:36 AM »
Terry would be better than Bruce

Why would Terry be better than Bruce ?

Because he means Wogan and Forsyth?

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Re: Manager suggestions - Now with added poll
« Reply #1312 on: December 28, 2017, 10:54:25 AM »
I'm not keen on smith. Don't really see being a villa fan as a major advantage, possibly the opposite.

Offline paul_e

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Re: Manager suggestions - Now with added poll
« Reply #1313 on: December 28, 2017, 10:55:42 AM »
I think Dean Smith would be a huge mistake, "He's got Villa in his blood" and a few good performances against us is nothing like enough for him to be overwhelming favourite, this is why we ended up with managers like Sherwood and Lambert as well.

Eh, I think Lambert was a fair enough one at the time. Consecutive promotions, solidified Norwich as a PL team while playing decent football and without much of a budget, and was praised for his tactical flexibility and ability to improve the players he had. It didn't work out, but that happens sometimes - unfortunately, we compounded things by leaving it far too late to bin him though.

The problem with Lambert (and that would work against Smith as well) is that he'd always worked at clubs where there was no real pressure.  As soon as he realised how big the job was he retreated from the open, attacking coach we'd seen at Norwich into the twunt who had us playing goal kicks to the corner flag.  I firmly believe that he was given the job because Lerner didn't want the anger again so he went for the guy the fans chanted about.  That appointment was the one that really turned me against Lerner because it was the one where he showed he had no plan or principles.

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Re: Manager suggestions - Now with added poll
« Reply #1314 on: December 28, 2017, 11:00:48 AM »
Bielsa sounds crazy but we would play with attacking intent and that would be such a refreshing change! However, it could either be a great success or horribly disastrous

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« Reply #1315 on: December 28, 2017, 11:01:59 AM »
I think the biggest problem with Lambert, and Sherwood, Garde and TSM for that matter is they were yes-men. Lerner paid them to manage during the rationalisation of the club, where as long as we stayed up that was acceptable. If one of them had come out and complained about the lack of investment and direction at the club  i would have had some sympathy, but it was always "lerner - lovely guy" etc...

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« Reply #1316 on: December 28, 2017, 11:32:49 AM »

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« Reply #1317 on: December 28, 2017, 11:49:09 AM »
McClaren (and Clement whilst I'm at it) are the definitive proof that there's a big difference between being a good assistant and being a good manager, both have great reputations as the former but have been shite whenever they've had the top job.

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Re: Manager suggestions - Now with added poll
« Reply #1318 on: December 28, 2017, 12:03:01 PM »
Bielsa sounds crazy but we would play with attacking intent and that would be such a refreshing change! However, it could either be a great success or horribly disastrous
Bielsa sounds crazy but we would play with attacking intent and that would be such a refreshing change! However, it could either be a great success or horribly disastrous

in fairness the last bit could apply to anyone we appoint

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Re: Manager suggestions - Now with added poll
« Reply #1319 on: December 28, 2017, 12:19:38 PM »
Well we can cross Carvahal's name off the list as he's got the Swansea job!

 


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