Manager suggestions - Now with added poll

[Damo70]

I'm pretty sure Allardyce will manage again, once he's had a break from the game. How long that break lasts depends on the offers he gets, a bit like MON before he came here.

I used to really dislike him but would now accept him as I think the job wouldn't overwhelm him and he'd get us up.  The last two seasons he's joined clubs mid season and done enough in that time to salvage the season. As say a two year option, he'd do for me.

He's done enough to save teams from relegation, that's a totally different job to earning a team promotion.  What Bruce is doing with us could be effective if that was the aim, but to get promotion you have to win games and there is nothing in Fat Sam's record ever to suggest he's capable of the long sequences of winning football we'd need.

He got Bolton and West Ham out of the championship and as for long sequences of winning football did he not set a league record points total when he won a title at Notts County?

[XXVilla]

If we accept we're not going up this year maybe get Frank DeBoer in for a long term repair job?

[sirlordbaltimore]

FDB?

Someone will have to explain that logic in that one. Failed at his last two jobs so would be a perfect fit to come in a turn around a club that's been in decline for about 7/8 years

No thanks.

[paul_e]

FDB?

Someone will have to explain that logic in that one. Failed at his last two jobs so would be a perfect fit to come in a turn around a club that's been in decline for about 7/8 years

No thanks.

He failed at Inter, I don't think you can say anyone has succeeded or failed when they're at a club for less than 3 months, he was just a bad fit at Palace.

[Chris Jameson]

Palace were fools to appoint a manager they knew would need time to coach Pardew and Allardyce out of them and then sack him after four matches but equally why do people think he would be an ideal appointment for a team that has been coached by Sherwood, Lambert, Bruce etc and are a worse side than Palace?

[paul_e]

In fact he only had a similar amount of time at Inter, coming in right at the end of pre-season.  I'm not saying he isn't a risk but given we want to go down the route of having a style that runs through the club a manager who has been successful in that environment would be worth looking at.

[German James]

What was the story about Tuchel leaving Dortmund?  Their results weren't that bad, considering the last season with Klopp, were they?  And the story since, for that matter.  I don't think his record is *that* good that he can simply sit and wait for a top club to come in for him. 

If we offered him a 'top club' wage - like most english clubs do compared to europe - then he might be tempted, surely?

His problem seems to be that he's incredibly highly strung. He fell out with Dortmund's scouts, board and players at various times during his tenure. He describes himself as  someone whose impatience got in the way of his work and made him bad-tempered... I'd still want him at Villa!

[sirlordbaltimore]

The fact he had a very short spells at Inter and Palace surely tells you how bad he must have been ?

Tells me that behind the scenes it was obvious very early on they'd made a massive error of judgement appointing him.

We currently have a bloke in charge with HUGE experience in this league, promotions (one of which was very recently) and a rather expensively assembled squad. And even he can't turn this sinking ship around by the looks of it. Football hasn't completely changed in two years as far as i can see, in fact it still exactly the same as before.

[Chris Smith]

What was the story about Tuchel leaving Dortmund?  Their results weren't that bad, considering the last season with Klopp, were they?  And the story since, for that matter.  I don't think his record is *that* good that he can simply sit and wait for a top club to come in for him. 

If we offered him a 'top club' wage - like most english clubs do compared to europe - then he might be tempted, surely?

His problem seems to be that he's incredibly highly strung. He fell out with Dortmund's scouts, board and players at various times during his tenure. He describes himself as  someone whose impatience got in the way of his work and made him bad-tempered... I'd still want him at Villa!

With a temperament like that I doubt he'd survive a season, that's meteorological not football.

[gpbarr]

I really do believe its time for a fresh approach. I'm certainly possibly wrong, but I don't see any manager sorting this mess out anytime soon - the squad is nowhere near as strong as people make out, and we have been saying the same things for too many years.

Bring in a young manager, bring in our youngsters and sign up and coming from the lower leagues (look at Huddersfield, Bournemouth, Brighton for the template), and while we go backwards for a couple years, concentrate on restoring the foundations upon which this club can build for the future.

The short term panic is literally forcing us ever deeper into the shit, financially, reputationally, and from a playing style perspective. Its got to change

[Comrade Blitz]

Appoint some mentalist bastard please. Full stop.
 

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

Football hasn't completely changed in two years as far as i can see, in fact it still exactly the same as before.

Same shit, different division.

[tomd2103]

I really do believe its time for a fresh approach. I'm certainly possibly wrong, but I don't see any manager sorting this mess out anytime soon - the squad is nowhere near as strong as people make out, and we have been saying the same things for too many years.

Bring in a young manager, bring in our youngsters and sign up and coming from the lower leagues (look at Huddersfield, Bournemouth, Brighton for the template), and while we go backwards for a couple years, concentrate on restoring the foundations upon which this club can build for the future.

The short term panic is literally forcing us ever deeper into the shit, financially, reputationally, and from a playing style perspective. Its got to change

We are facing that reality this summer if we don't go up. 

[old man villa fan]

The fact he had a very short spells at Inter and Palace surely tells you how bad he must have been ?

Tells me that behind the scenes it was obvious very early on they'd made a massive error of judgement appointing him.

We currently have a bloke in charge with HUGE experience in this league, promotions (one of which was very recently) and a rather expensively assembled squad. And even he can't turn this sinking ship around by the looks of it. Football hasn't completely changed in two years as far as i can see, in fact it still exactly the same as before.

Perhaps it might be about how Palace is being run. Perhaps that is why Allardyce didn't want to carry on.

[Damo70]

I think we have run out of fresh approaches. MON, popular choice with proven track record. Houllier, excellant CV and a more cosmopolitan approach. TSM, a man who had a fine playing career (whilst picking things up from Ferguson), a good spell in charge of Rangers and his country and even managed to win a cup with SHA. Lambert, the new SGT based on promotions and a good season in the PL. Plus his experience playing for Dortmund getting his coaching badges in Germany. Sherwood, young and hungry. Garde, promising young foreign coach. RDM, CL winner with Chelsea and more relevant to us a Championship promotion winner. Then Bruce with a decent track record of promotion to the PL and surviving in it.

Maybe we need to think outside the box like the new Dr Who or the potential next James Bond.

Appoint a woman or even (and I know this sounds crazy) a black person.