Manager suggestions - Now with added poll

[passitsideways]

Boro were ultra mean at the back think only 30 conceded the season they went up. Not sure he's the right fit for us. Got to be envious of Wolves getting a manager who clearly has a clue about how to attack. Rowett and Monk doing good jobs again this season. Yet we can't string 2 halves of decent football together let alone 2 games. Both of those had to shape their team in less time than Bruce has. Derby even lost Ince but still cantered past Hull 5 nil.

Interesting that during the international break Smith was on the training ground coaching while Bruce was on the beach in Portugal.

I watched a fair few Valencia games while Nuno was in charge, and he was honestly quite negative - a lot of sit back and counter sort of stuff. Likewise, from what I read around the time he was hired by Wolves, the same was said about his Porto tenure as well. I think the point is that unless you're a Bielsa-type who'll try and implement a particular philosophically in a very dogmatic way, it's more important that a manager is able to adapt and find the most effective fit for the players he's got.

Not necessarily sure Karanka fits the bill, but I really can't think of a reason why one would put Dean Smith ahead of him.

[Marlon From Bearwood]

I came across this video on Bielsa on a coaching page I follow (as I coach a kids team myself). It's impressive and depressing in equal measure as I'm pretty sure it talks in a completely different language to one that Steve Bruce would understand:

https://www.facebook.com/uMAXitFootball/videos/1630945450291129/

[ASHTONVILLA]

What about Frank de Boer? Struggling at Palace but might suit being at a bigger club.

[QuintonVilla]

He's just been sacked by Palace apparantly. I thought they played ok second half yesterday, if Dann puts his sitter away then he still has a job. It was better than we've played away for about 3 years.

[Des Little]

I came across this video on Bielsa on a coaching page I follow (as I coach a kids team myself). It's impressive and depressing in equal measure as I'm pretty sure it talks in a completely different language to one that Steve Bruce would understand:

https://www.facebook.com/uMAXitFootball/videos/1630945450291129/

It was all going great until the bit about Bielsa demanding 'huge technical skill from squad', which basically fcuks it for us

[Risso]

He's just been sacked by Palace apparantly. I thought they played ok second half yesterday, if Dann puts his sitter away then he still has a job. It was better than we've played away for about 3 years.

Not sure someone who's just broken the sort of record even we'd find embarrassing would be my first port of call.

[paul_e]

To offer another credible (and unemployed) option how about Michel Preud'homme, good record at a number of club (over 50% win rate everywhere he's been, including a season at Twente which is a massive achievement with them.  I can't say I've seen much of his teams so I don't know how he plays but the profile is right.


Aside from that if De Boer is sacked I'd take him in a heartbeat.

[The Charmer]

I came across this video on Bielsa on a coaching page I follow (as I coach a kids team myself). It's impressive and depressing in equal measure as I'm pretty sure it talks in a completely different language to one that Steve Bruce would understand:

https://www.facebook.com/uMAXitFootball/videos/1630945450291129/

That really makes for interesting viewing but, unfortunately, as you said, depressing viewing too.

If 5 minute tutorials like this are so easily available, even I felt as if I learned a lot in a short space of time.
Our manager prefers to spend his spare time at his place on the Algarve instead of trying to find ways to improve his woeful performance in the best job he's ever had. His choice and it can only end one way  -  the sooner the better. 

[Toronto Villa]

He's just been sacked by Palace apparantly. I thought they played ok second half yesterday, if Dann puts his sitter away then he still has a job. It was better than we've played away for about 3 years.

That's like putting in argument for a club hiring RDM. Life's full of what ifs. De Boer is a big name in football and did well in Holland but has done nothing since. There's nothing to suggest he is going to have the ability for us right at this moment. Any more than Garde when he came in last season. He might be the right person at another time but now I'm not so sure.

[paul_e]

He's just been sacked by Palace apparantly. I thought they played ok second half yesterday, if Dann puts his sitter away then he still has a job. It was better than we've played away for about 3 years.

That's like putting in argument for a club hiring RDM. Life's full of what ifs. De Boer is a big name in football and did well in Holland but has done nothing since. There's nothing to suggest he is going to have the ability for us right at this moment. Any more than Garde when he came in last season. He might be the right person at another time but now I'm not so sure.

I agree he wasn't great at Inter where he had a decent squad and he's not got Palace firing yet but 6 seasons of success at a club that is built around it's youth system (as we supposedly want to be) shouldn't be dismissed because of about 20 games where he hasn't managed to turn other clubs around.  I think he'd be a much better bet than keeping Bruce.

[Dave]

To offer another credible (and unemployed) option how about Michel Preud'homme, good record at a number of club (over 50% win rate everywhere he's been, including a season at Twente which is a massive achievement with them.  I can't say I've seen much of his teams so I don't know how he plays but the profile is right.

There was a game in (I think) USA 94 when he pulled off the best display I think I've ever seen from a goalkeeper.

[Toronto Villa]

He's just been sacked by Palace apparantly. I thought they played ok second half yesterday, if Dann puts his sitter away then he still has a job. It was better than we've played away for about 3 years.

That's like putting in argument for a club hiring RDM. Life's full of what ifs. De Boer is a big name in football and did well in Holland but has done nothing since. There's nothing to suggest he is going to have the ability for us right at this moment. Any more than Garde when he came in last season. He might be the right person at another time but now I'm not so sure.

I agree he wasn't great at Inter where he had a decent squad and he's not got Palace firing yet but 6 seasons of success at a club that is built around it's youth system (as we supposedly want to be) shouldn't be dismissed because of about 20 games where he hasn't managed to turn other clubs around.  I think he'd be a much better bet than keeping Bruce.

Not dismissing that. It's just a question of is he what we need now? I want a progressive manager who plays the game the right way. Wants to attack. And yes develop our kids. But also have the required appetite and ability to change where we are (again) quickly. Maybe he can. I don't know but not entirely convinced.

[tomd2103]

He's just been sacked by Palace apparantly. I thought they played ok second half yesterday, if Dann puts his sitter away then he still has a job. It was better than we've played away for about 3 years.

That's like putting in argument for a club hiring RDM. Life's full of what ifs. De Boer is a big name in football and did well in Holland but has done nothing since. There's nothing to suggest he is going to have the ability for us right at this moment. Any more than Garde when he came in last season. He might be the right person at another time but now I'm not so sure.

I agree he wasn't great at Inter where he had a decent squad and he's not got Palace firing yet but 6 seasons of success at a club that is built around it's youth system (as we supposedly want to be) shouldn't be dismissed because of about 20 games where he hasn't managed to turn other clubs around.  I think he'd be a much better bet than keeping Bruce.

Well he would certainly fit the vision that was described last week.  There have been rumours that his general style and training techniques haven't gone down well and that might be the reason why they have started so poorly.  Bit like Houllier came here and began double training sessions when the likes of Dunne were used to MON's early finishes and days off. 

[paul_e]

To offer another credible (and unemployed) option how about Michel Preud'homme, good record at a number of club (over 50% win rate everywhere he's been, including a season at Twente which is a massive achievement with them.  I can't say I've seen much of his teams so I don't know how he plays but the profile is right.

There was a game in (I think) USA 94 when he pulled off the best display I think I've ever seen from a goalkeeper.

Yeah, he was a brilliant keeper and I remember that one, he was also fucking brilliant against England 4 years earlier where we only beat him with that brilliant Platt goal.

[SheffieldVillain]

Gus Poyet just resigned from his club in China. He'd probably be in the rumour mix as well.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41226746