Manager suggestions - Now with added poll

[dave shelley]

More I think about who next the more I can see Terry being given the job

I think it has been mentioned on here that Terry would be a non-starter due to the fact that he possesses no coaching badges which automatically nullifies him.  It may be that that only applies in the top-flight I'm not sure.

[Dave P]

We've tried every possible type of candidate in recent years with no success.

Tried and tested, successful foreigner- Houllier
Up and coming Brit needing a step up - Lambert
Young English "coach" - Sherwood
Unknown foreigner with new ideas - Garde
The left field surprise "that could work" - RDM
Belt and braces, meat and potato, no nonsense Englishman - Bruce

I genuinely don't know what route to go down or who, specifically, we should go for.

I would go for the "not lumping managers into arbitrary categories and just hiring somebody good, regardless of where they are from" route.

You missed out McLeish or have you wiped him from your memory? I wouldn't blame you.

I genuinely don't know what category I would put him under, such was the strangeness of his appointment.

[Tuscans]

We've tried every possible type of candidate in recent years with no success.

Tried and tested, successful foreigner- Houllier
Up and coming Brit needing a step up - Lambert
Young English "coach" - Sherwood
Unknown foreigner with new ideas - Garde
The left field surprise "that could work" - RDM
Belt and braces, meat and potato, no nonsense Englishman - Bruce

I genuinely don't know what route to go down or who, specifically, we should go for.

I would go for the "not lumping managers into arbitrary categories and just hiring somebody good, regardless of where they are from" route.

You missed out McLeish or have you wiped him from your memory? I wouldn't blame you.

I genuinely don't know what category I would put him under, such was the strangeness of his appointment.

And he's not even big...no one ever called Shaun Wright-Phillips, Big Shaun.

[paul_e]

I think we're much too big a job for somebody like Howe.

Why? Isn't it just about sorting the footballing side and making it work regardless of name, history location etc?

He works at a club who have a ground that has a capacity 3500 less than the Holte. There is no pressure on Bournemouth to play in the top flight or the 2nd Division.

How would he cope with a 0-0 draw being met with furious outcry? He's never had anything like that and the closest he got at Burnley, he failed.

Aston Villa is a huge job. Flavour of the months or one club wonders need not apply.

This is why I think we need to find a manager with a record of meeting the expectations of a club that expect to be the big fish.  This is the main reason I didn't want Bruce and it's why I hoped RDM could work but his time at Chelsea clearly wasn't enough to teach him how to handle that pressure.  It's also why McLeish and Lambert were appointments that were always a high risk and we really should've been looking a level or 2 higher in both cases.  As I've said before Wolves managed to get a very good manager from Portugal with all the right credentials and look at how they're playing now.  Given they took on Lambert at roughly the same time we got Bruce I'd say that's good evidence that abandoning a manager who just doesn't fit and getting a well scouted replacement can have a massive impact.

All of this is why I waned Cocu on the list and would like us to at least ask the question, he's too good for the championship but if that's what we want to be then we need to start getting staff and players who seem unrealistic.

[Ads]

I'd hope we'd go down that route too. It's going to be expensive in the short term. But Christ, look at the bench and the four players of Dr Laet, Kodjia, Adomah, Grealish who are to come back and explain to me, with a straight face, how there's not enough quality to win this league.

If Bruce fails he only has himself to blame.

[paul_e]

I'd hope we'd go down that route too. It's going to be expensive in the short term. But Christ, look at the bench and the four players of Dr Laet, Kodjia, Adomah, Grealish who are to come back and explain to me, with a straight face, how there's not enough quality to win this league.

If Bruce fails he only has himself to blame.

And another 5-6 kids who look like they could have an impact as well (blackett-taylor, doyle-hayes, o'hare, RHM, sulieman and lyden at the very least look like they could offer something for a few games here and there).

That's also still ignoring players like Elphick, Samba, McCormack and Hutton who should all be capable as 3rd or 4th choice at this level.

I firmly believe that you could get a decent manager to look at this squad and if we could offer him a few million to add a player or 2 in January and see it as a route into a premier league job where he'd have almost a blank slate to do what he wanted to move on.

[ozzjim]

Serious question, if Terry gets the gig for 3 or 4 games and we win them, would it be worth seeing what he is made of as a manager. He's no younger than Monk, has the big club mentality and might bring a coaching team to the table to play a bit differently. I think he will be seriously considered if the trigger is pulled.

[paul_e]

Serious question, if Terry gets the gig for 3 or 4 games and we win them, would it be worth seeing what he is made of as a manager. He's no younger than Monk, has the big club mentality and might bring a coaching team to the table to play a bit differently. I think he will be seriously considered if the trigger is pulled.

I'd be very worried if we did that.  With no badges and no experience it would be very much a case of learning on the job and, for me, getting a bit of a bounce wouldn't be enough to take that risk unless the alternatives were shite like Moyes and Pardew.

[SoccerHQ]

We've signed him as a player though.

No way could he be player manager so we'd be another centre half down with limited options until January.

I personally think the whole courting him was a bit of a circus and while he hasn't been terrible on the pitch his presence seems to have destabilized a solid defence unless people can point to other reasons why we've been conceding regularly this season (and the clean sheet yesterday was pretty lucky).

[paul_e]

We've signed him as a player though.

No way could he be player manager so we'd be another centre half down with limited options until January.

I personally think the whole courting him was a bit of a circus and while he hasn't been terrible on the pitch his presence seems to have destabilized a solid defence unless people can point to other reasons why we've been conceding regularly this season (and the clean sheet yesterday was pretty lucky).

I think if you put Jedinak in front of Terry and Chester, tell them both to hold their positions and let Jedi be the one who dominates in the air and cuts of that supply they'll be fine.  That does just raise another question of why Bruce thought Terry and Whelan could play together though because I think that dynamic is a big part of the problem at the back.

[ozzjim]

I should clarify Jokanovic, Karanka, Smith, Warburton etc... would be way before him.

[SoccerHQ]

We've signed him as a player though.

No way could he be player manager so we'd be another centre half down with limited options until January.

I personally think the whole courting him was a bit of a circus and while he hasn't been terrible on the pitch his presence seems to have destabilized a solid defence unless people can point to other reasons why we've been conceding regularly this season (and the clean sheet yesterday was pretty lucky).

I think if you put Jedinak in front of Terry and Chester, tell them both to hold their positions and let Jedi be the one who dominates in the air and cuts of that supply they'll be fine.  That does just raise another question of why Bruce thought Terry and Whelan could play together though because I think that dynamic is a big part of the problem at the back.

Think we'll see that on Tuesday. Would expect Jedinak to start so let's see if he can settle the defence down as he did a good job at that last season.

[KRS]

The pressure to get results will be on any new manager as soon as he walks through the door, and one of the few who is thick skinned enough and experienced enough to grab this job by the horns would be Fat Sam. He wouldn't be a popular choice, he may not come out of retirement, but I'm pretty sure he'd get us into the top 6 this season...and getting us to position of having a chance of promotion this season is all that matters.

For the record, I think Howe would be a great appointment (but unlikely to leave Bournemouth mid-season) and Smith would be a massive gamble for many reasons regardless of support for the club.

[olaftab]

I'd hope we'd go down that route too. It's going to be expensive in the short term. But Christ, look at the bench and the four players of Dr Laet, Kodjia, Adomah, Grealish who are to come back and explain to me, with a straight face, how there's not enough quality to win this league.

If Bruce fails he only has himself to blame.

Yes indeed.

[ozzjim]

The pressure to get results will be on any new manager as soon as he walks through the door, and one of the few who is thick skinned enough and experienced enough to grab this job by the horns would be Fat Sam. He wouldn't be a popular choice, he may not come out of retirement, but I'm pretty sure he'd get us into the top 6 this season...and getting us to position of having a chance of promotion this season is all that matters.

For the record, I think Howe would be a great appointment (but unlikely to leave Bournemouth mid-season) and Smith would be a massive gamble for many reasons regardless of support for the club.

I would not be upset if it was Sam.