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Offline Rudy Can't Fail

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Re: Manager suggestions - Now with added poll
« Reply #630 on: August 17, 2017, 02:59:21 PM »
I would like Wagner but I fear he would crumple under the expectation. Huddersfield with all due respect if they had finished mid-table would not have sacked him and would probably have accepted that. We, on the other hand are demanding immediate success.

I wanted Wagner last season, everything about him screams hard working, modern manager. He may have taken over at Huddersfield when they were 19th and by the end of the season that's exactly where they finished. The big difference was, the fans could see what he was trying to do and last season they bought a record number of season tickets. It was no surprise for me they got promoted. I think he has the potential with the right club to be over time more successful than his mate, Klopp. There will be plenty of clubs after him next summer if as expected, Huddersfield get relegated. If they do, it won't be because of lack of preparation, fight and determination.

I think the spot we're in we call for the master escape artist - Fat Sam. Don't like him, don't particularly like the style of play, but my god has he performed miracles with a) teams with low morale and also b) teams with players who don't seem to have a plan. Give him a 1 year contract with a £5M bonus for promotion and let him get on with it.

I feel dirty saying it but I'm leaning in this direction too. We don't have the luxury to bring in a manager and give them time. It's pretty much promotion or bust. We're in such a financial mess I fear unless we go up this season we're done for. Whether BFS would come out of retirement and manage us until the end of the season, I have no idea but we do need a strong personality, somebody that can remind the players they actually are footballers, somebody that understands tactics and dare I say it, somebody that has a point to prove.

My choice is Jokanović but I think he may be too involved with Fulham now. The other thing is his style is to play with wingers, something we really lack right now. I would hope somebody will tweet Xia and tell him Jokanović is good friends with Terry. It's the kind of thing that would get his attention and hopefully have a word with our Captain. Whoever comes in will need to immediately unite the squad and get them working as one. Jokanović has the advantage of being a manager that can not only get us promoted but  prepare us for life back in the PL.

Right now that seems a million miles away.

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Re: Manager suggestions - Now with added poll
« Reply #631 on: August 17, 2017, 03:01:18 PM »
at least FS would more or lessguarantee that our death spiral didn't suck us into D1. If Bruce is left in charge much longer I can see us in the same sort of position Blackburn were all of last season

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Re: Manager suggestions - Now with added poll
« Reply #632 on: August 17, 2017, 03:03:52 PM »

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Re: Manager suggestions - Now with added poll
« Reply #633 on: August 17, 2017, 03:27:21 PM »
we have had a number of tired old players coming to Villa and seeing out there days on big wages, we've still got some around now

so why do people think that going that one step even further and actually dragging someone out of retirement means they will be right fired up for the job,

Sams retired for a reason he ought to stay that way,
a final payday with Villa is something he will not be able to turn down knowing his love of money, all the worst reasons ever to appoint him

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Re: Manager suggestions - Now with added poll
« Reply #634 on: August 17, 2017, 03:32:13 PM »
Sam would walk to VP because his ego would push him to do it not money. If he came before the window shut I would get on us going up this season too, he is very good at what he does.

Jokanovic has to be the one though. Get him and a couple of fast wingers and let him give us a style. If not him then Dean Smith and have a bit of passion and attacking football.

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Re: Manager suggestions - Now with added poll
« Reply #635 on: August 17, 2017, 03:45:39 PM »
Sam would walk to VP because his ego would push him to do it not money. If he came before the window shut I would get on us going up this season too, he is very good at what he does.

Jokanovic has to be the one though. Get him and a couple of fast wingers and let him give us a style. If not him then Dean Smith and have a bit of passion and attacking football.

When he got his lifetime dream job at England it still didn't stop him from wanting to make more money on the sly
because money is Sams God not football

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Re: Manager suggestions - Now with added poll
« Reply #636 on: August 17, 2017, 03:52:11 PM »
Are we going overboard on Smith because he is a Villa man?

I ask as I've heard murmurs of Brentford fans saying he has no Plan B, and struggles to close a game out. Their results this season so far back that up, very early days of course for him to improve things, but he's only had one season at this level so far, albeit a pretty good one.

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Re: Manager suggestions - Now with added poll
« Reply #637 on: August 17, 2017, 03:55:16 PM »
I didn't realise the reasons BFS retired. I'd guess we can cross him off the list.

We go again.

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Re: Manager suggestions - Now with added poll
« Reply #638 on: August 17, 2017, 03:55:48 PM »
Brentford is not a big club. He's doing very well to have them competing and playing as they are.

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Re: Manager suggestions - Now with added poll
« Reply #639 on: August 17, 2017, 03:58:30 PM »
I didn't realise the reasons BFS retired. I'd guess we can cross him off the list.

We go again.
He didn't give a reason IIRC.

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Re: Manager suggestions - Now with added poll
« Reply #640 on: August 17, 2017, 04:00:01 PM »
I didn't realise the reasons BFS retired. I'd guess we can cross him off the list.

We go again.
He didn't give a reason IIRC.

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"I have no ambitions to take another job," Allardyce said in a statement.

"I want to be able to savour life while I am still relatively young, and when I am still relatively healthy enough to do all the things I want to do, like travel, spend more time with my family and grandchildren without the huge pressure that comes with being a football manager.

"This is the right time for me. I simply want to be able to enjoy all the things you cannot really enjoy with the 24/7 demands of managing any football club, let alone one in the Premier League."

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Re: Manager suggestions - Now with added poll
« Reply #641 on: August 17, 2017, 04:02:22 PM »
Yeah doesn't sound like someone itching to take a job as placid and relaxed as the Villa.

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Re: Manager suggestions - Now with added poll
« Reply #642 on: August 17, 2017, 04:07:43 PM »
I didn't realise the reasons BFS retired. I'd guess we can cross him off the list.

We go again.
He didn't give a reason IIRC.

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"I have no ambitions to take another job," Allardyce said in a statement.

"I want to be able to savour life while I am still relatively young, and when I am still relatively healthy enough to do all the things I want to do, like travel, spend more time with my family and grandchildren without the huge pressure that comes with being a football manager.

"This is the right time for me. I simply want to be able to enjoy all the things you cannot really enjoy with the 24/7 demands of managing any football club, let alone one in the Premier League."
Exactly ;)
Still would not surprise me to see him in a dugout again.

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Re: Manager suggestions - Now with added poll
« Reply #643 on: August 17, 2017, 04:16:14 PM »
I didn't realise the reasons BFS retired. I'd guess we can cross him off the list.

We go again.
He didn't give a reason IIRC.

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"I have no ambitions to take another job," Allardyce said in a statement.

"I want to be able to savour life while I am still relatively young, and when I am still relatively healthy enough to do all the things I want to do, like travel, spend more time with my family and grandchildren without the huge pressure that comes with being a football manager.

"This is the right time for me. I simply want to be able to enjoy all the things you cannot really enjoy with the 24/7 demands of managing any football club, let alone one in the Premier League."
Exactly ;)
Still would not surprise me to see him in a dugout again.

I reckon within a few weeks

Offline Dante Lavelli

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Re: Manager suggestions - Now with added poll
« Reply #644 on: August 17, 2017, 04:16:50 PM »
Lol yes Tuchel is as likely or unlikely as Bielsa.

No idea how accurate these wages are but Tuchel wanting a champions league club could just as easily be code for I want champion's league wages, which Villa arguably do pay.  Dortmund do not appear on the list whereas Palace (Benfica?), West Ham, Watford and Everton are all in there.  The stupid wages paid in the UK also means that you get better value abroad, the difficulty is identifying the right man.

http://www.totalsportek.com/money/highest-paid-football-managers/ 

It's highly unlikely but it'd be almost negligent not to make enquiries in my opinion.
« Last Edit: August 17, 2017, 04:24:47 PM by Dante Lavelli »

 


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