Manager suggestions - Now with added poll

[cdbearsfan]

Bielsa only manages Lille, which is French for "small club" . We aren't trying to entice the Real Madrid manager. Leave him on the list.

Even if we can't get him, I'd rather the poll reflected the ambitions of the supporters rather than indicating that we are happy yo settle for second best. As we have done for each of our last seven appointments.

[AVH87]

To those saying Tuchel isn't unrealistic, he was linked with the Arsenal job a few months ago.

Yes he's unemployed, does that mean if Wenger had left Arsenal at the end of the season and was now unemployed, he'd be realistic too?

[Nelly]

For what it's worth I think Garde is still the sort of manager we ultimately need. If he had a bit more time and backing from the club in terms of disciplining players and finances, it could have worked. We were just too fucked for him to do anything about.

If the club do go down this route, we'd have to hope the new man could implement his style quickly enough to get us challenging. Sort of asking for a miracle.

[rob_bridge]

For what it's worth I think Garde is still the sort of manager we ultimately need. If he had a bit more time and backing from the club in terms of disciplining players and finances, it could have worked. We were just too fucked for him to do anything about.

If the club do go down this route, we'd have to hope the new man could implement his style quickly enough to get us challenging. Sort of asking for a miracle.

I agree - no way could he have ever succeeded in those circumstances.

Dean Smith for me

[Nelly]

I seem to remember Brentford playing excellent football. If the club backed him in whatever he wanted to do, I'm sure he'd be a success. Hogan would skip to work, that's for sure.

[Monty]

Garde is a somewhat brittle personality and does need things around him to work. God knows what Randy said to him about working there but it's quite clear he didn't get that at Villa and couldn't do anything to arrest the decline. The right footballing ideas, but the wrong personality in an impossible and already-ruined season.

[Nelly]

Agreed Monty. It's the footballing ideas that excites me though. I would hope our current board would be much more supportive of a manager like Garde. If his personality was lacking, bring in backroom staff around him to support him. But perhaps that is part of the culture change we need. Professional footballers not ladz and bantz.

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

Manager after manager after manager.

Bruce, Di Matteo, Garde, Sherwood, Lambert, McLeish, Houlier all have fell way short of what we hoped for.
MON screwed us over, DOL was a scumbag, SGT was never going to work out a second time round.
Gregory didn't so much fail but even under him we were falling behind the then `Sky 4`.
The club has been going backwards for the entire 21st century.
The day Dwight Yorke left, that was when we were cut off from any hope of  being able to truly compete with Man U, Arsenal, Chelsea etc ever ever again.
   
We may as well give the job to any chancer who will sign a short term contract of 6 months. That way it doesn't cost as much when the inevitable happens.

[Damo70]

Wagner, Stam or Dyche would be nice. Although I think a more realistic shortlist would be Allardyce, Pearson or Warnock. I would go Wagner from the first list or Allardyce from the second.

[paul_e]

My concern with Smith is thast he's not defensively very astute. Jokanovic seems to have been able to mould good attacking play with decent defensive resilience. Wyness stated before the season  started we need 70 to 80 goals this season. That's never, ever going to happen under Bruce. We need to get him out and get someone capable of playing in a style that will achieve that.

Just as a matter of interest, how many goals did the sides that Bruce previously managed score in their promotion seasons? Obviously more goals are nice but its winning games that matters, so is this figure of 70-80 goals realistic? Given that you need to score 46 goals to win all the games 1-0 then I wouldn't be surprised if his previous sides scored more like 50-60 goals.

First thing, I don't think you can include the playoffs in this because that quote was about automatic promotion.

On that basis is you start in 2004 (when it became the championship) there have been 26 teams promoted and 6 of them have scored less than 70 goals.  So it is possible but it's rare.  Bruce is responsible for a couple of those.

[mallo]

I would like Wagner but I fear he would crumple under the expectation. Huddersfield with all due respect if they had finished mid-table would not have sacked him and would probably have accepted that. We, on the other hand are demanding immediate success. I think the spot we're in we call for the master escape artist - Fat Sam. Don't like him, don't particularly like the style of play, but my god has he performed miracles with a) teams with low morale and also b) teams with players who don't seem to have a plan. Give him a 1 year contract with a £5M bonus for promotion and let him get on with it.

[lovejoy]

The poll is massively unrealistic - how many of those managers could we realistically attract in our current state? Dych is managing a stable team in a higher division for goodness sake.

[Comrade Blitz]

Someone young....and good-looking.

[Nelson Lodge]

My concern with Smith is thast he's not defensively very astute. Jokanovic seems to have been able to mould good attacking play with decent defensive resilience. Wyness stated before the season  started we need 70 to 80 goals this season. That's never, ever going to happen under Bruce. We need to get him out and get someone capable of playing in a style that will achieve that.

Just as a matter of interest, how many goals did the sides that Bruce previously managed score in their promotion seasons? Obviously more goals are nice but its winning games that matters, so is this figure of 70-80 goals realistic? Given that you need to score 46 goals to win all the games 1-0 then I wouldn't be surprised if his previous sides scored more like 50-60 goals.

When Hull, with Bruce as manager, last got promoted in 2015-16, via the play-offs, they scored 69 goals and finished 4th. Burnley were champions scoring 72 and M'Boro 2nd scoring just 63 goals. Brighton 3rd scoring 72.

[Des Little]

Someone young....and good-looking.

Me then